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30 minutes ago, Manna said:

I thought he was able to handle pressure because of the incredible S2 score and being a son of a therapist. Like many have pointed out here, he folds under pressure. You would expect a year 3 QB1 to have shown some progress there but he’s the exact same player since his first start. 

You gotta be able to read the defense to improve and I've yet to see anything that shows young can read a defense when it's not in prevent. 

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It was driving me crazy on that last drive just how long he was holding on to the ball. Both me and my wife were screaming at the TV, "Throw the damn ball!!"

Especially on that final 4th down. If you know the sack is coming just throw the dang ball up, and at least give your receivers a chance to try and do something.

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Move the Panthers to Raleigh Grand Master

Move the Panthers to Raleigh

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3 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If you could but Murray’s or prime Wilson’s arm on Young he would be pretty good. 
Instead the only elite trait he supposedly had was his mind and that is not anywhere close to elite. 
We literally took a QB with not good physical NFL QB traits who is short all because his mind is elite. 
It’s baffling. 

The “super-processor” who consistently makes bad decisions. It’s almost like we were completely conned by the Young family and the Alabama coaching staff 

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Well…when a qb has no arm for a pass over 20  yards, this is what happens 

The day this guy  didn't throw at the combine and stroud did, should've ended  it

im no leggett fan but the fuger had straight line speed supposedly, when has ever been sent on a straight go route.  ?
 

Yes i know he drops passes but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.  
 

He might get lucky and it would  at least give a threat to move defenders off the line

 They  drafted horn for the same reason. He is inactive  

the panthers will never be more  than  they are right now with Young   Not going to happen 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

That’s what I see. Saw it in preseason and just didn’t want to believe it but yeah, the same. There has been no growth. 

I'm done gaslighting myself, and being gaslit by Bryce Stans, that he's good and just needs more time, help, etc etc. 

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I think we good hoodwinked thinking just because a QB was successful at Alabama, they will be successful in NFL. If history tells us anything, most any QB was successful under Saban and have been poor NFL QB's. Hell their best NFL QB left the school after being demoted (and goes on to win a Super Bowl) LOL.  Bama's talent and coaching was superior to almost everyone they played making life a lot easier for a QB.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

and penalties bailed him out of 2 of the worst looking turnovers you could of seen in the NFL through 2 weeks. 

Yeah this is overlooked for "reasons" but we aren't going to get those lucky breaks against legit contenders on the rest of the schedule. It's gonna get ugly.

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31 minutes ago, GoDaddyGo said:

I think we good hoodwinked thinking just because a QB was successful at Alabama, they will be successful in NFL. If history tells us anything, most any QB was successful under Saban and have been poor NFL QB's. Hell their best NFL QB left the school after being demoted (and goes on to win a Super Bowl) LOL.  Bama's talent and coaching was superior to almost everyone they played making life a lot easier for a QB.


Alabama yes. In general the ‘SEC success guarantees NFL success’ fallacy was really tough to overcome too. You still have to look at the player and extrapolate what their college performance would look like against a team full of NFL vets. 
 

I think 62 SEC players were drafted in 2023. But there were over 1600 players rostered on SEC a teams. You might even  face an SEC defense that had no one drafted. Like Vanderbilt had no one taken in 2025. 
So you just can’t blindly hold that hey he was great in the SEC he is a lock. Damn, especially with a weak armed little guy with bad throwing mechanics, 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, strato said:


Alabama yes. In general the ‘SEC success guarantees NFL success’ fallacy was really tough to overcome too. You still have to look at the player and extrapolate what their college performance would look like against a team full of NFL vets. 
 

I think 62 SEC players were drafted in 2023. But there were over 1600 players rostered on SEC a teams. You might even  face an SEC defense that had no one drafted. Like Vanderbilt had no one taken in 2025. 
So you just can’t blindly hold that hey he was great in the SEC he is a lock. Damn, especially with a weak armed little guy with bad throwing mechanics, 

 

 

And of those 62, 10 (17%) were from Alabama. 

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      Actually that 4400 was based on a 16 game season to match Bryce's 16 games this year. Your offense has to be to drive the ball when it matters. Bryce doesn't do that with any level of consistency. If you're building a team that isn't focused on your QB, then fine. Then there's no need to pay Bryce as a franchise QB because literally anyone else will do. If you're going to pay him 50m plus per season, you have to be able to put the team on his shoulders and know he's going to carry the load. So far, when the pressure is on to get it done, Bryce has fallen miserably short of the target. 4-6 to finish out the season and 0-2 when all we need is a win to secure a playoff spot isn't stepping up and proving yourself as a franchise QB. I'd say it's quite the opposite.  There isn't a single coach in this league that would take Bryce over Burrow and very few if any that would take Bryce over Prescott. Hurts didn't have to throw in 2025 because Philly's defense was disgusting and Saquan had a MVP season. But then again, Hurts has shown that he can when it counts, and then there's his signature. Philly runs the tush push to lethal perfection, but that's a play we can't even consider with Bryce. You used 3 QBs from teams that had no defense to show QB stats don't always matter. When we had the worst defense in the NFL, we didn't see Bryce step up and carry the offense and put up gaudy numbers in a losing season because we were playing catch up. It was pretty much the opposite.  What have we seen from Bryce consistently to consider offering him a top 10 NFL franchise QB level contract? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.   
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      If you pay Bryce $50M a year you greatly limit your ability to put the type of team around him you need to have to have a chance to win. THAT is the problem. Hell, we can't win with him on a rookie contract. How the hell are we supposed to start winning with him paying him like a franchise QB and having to make tough roster decisions to accommodate his cap hit? 
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