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Our 2nd Most Productive WR

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

We have had WRs open all year thus far.  Bryce Young has missed them.  That could change against some better teams later but to date, not getting open isn't our problem.  It's the QB accurately putting the balls on people that is the issue. 

But I do agree Canales scheme doesn't fit a Renfrow and really won't fit Horn either.  Coker probably fits the slot in Canales' scheme.  

Baker Mayfield fits Canales' offense. Canales wants to take shots. He needs a big armed QB with the guts and the ability to take the shots. If we're taking those shots it opens up opportunities for a guy like Renfrow or Horn to work underneath. The NFL passing game has evolved more and more toward the short passing game focused on getting the ball out fast but you need the threat of the deep ball to open up those opportunities. When everything is short and there's no threat vertically the defense can just choke you to death. That's why redzone offense is a lot more difficult. There's just less field for the defense to have to defend. When your offense has no credible vertical threat the entire field basically becomes redzone offense. And everyone tends to act like arm strength only comes into play when throwing the ball downfield but it also comes into play squeezing the ball into the tighter windows in the redzone. Sometimes you just gotta fire that fast ball in there and Bryce just doesn't have a fast ball. It puts a lot of pressure on the coaches to scheme guys open.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Baker Mayfield fits Canales' offense. Canales wants to take shots. He needs a big armed QB with the guts and the ability to take the shots. If we're taking those shots it opens up opportunities for a guy like Renfrow or Horn to work underneath. The NFL passing game has evolved more and more toward the short passing game focused on getting the ball out fast but you need the threat of the deep ball to open up those opportunities. When everything is short and there's no threat vertically the defense can just choke you to death. That's why redzone offense is a lot more difficult. There's just less field for the defense to have to defend. When your offense has no credible vertical threat the entire field basically becomes redzone offense.

going into the season, I always said Jake Delhomme fits Canales better than any QB we have had here.  Not that Jake's arm was great but Jake was willing to push the envelope downfield to open up the offense.   The entire league has been sitting on our offense since Bryce arrived (Frank's and Canales).....and it makes football super hard.   Small ball gets harder.  Running gets harder. 

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12 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Typical Red. Move the goal posts. Dodge, deny, deflect. At least when you were Red you felt like you stood for something. This is sad. 

Dodge deny deflect you say but every time you quote me you bring up my old account like it's some gotcha. Nobody cares. That was years ago. Life moves on. You want to talk about everything but the issues at hand. I'll show up and continue to support the Panthers players that are actually keeping this team competitive. You can keep trying to attack others if you want. Good luck with that.

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13 hours ago, Martin said:

In 2021, Young only completed 10 passes of 20 yards or more, resulting in a 36.1% completion rate on such throws, according to AL.com. This was significantly less than other Alabama quarterbacks like Mac Jones in 2020 (29 completions, 58%) and Tua Tagovailoa in 2018 (24 completions, 57.1%).

Who were our receivers?

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4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Coker(GOAT)  coming back and hopefully XL getting out of his slump should help our offense.  BC at RG over Zavala looked like a nice upgrade on Sunday.  

So amped for Coker to come back, even if it means less Tremayne.

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29 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I wanna see Horn getting more of Renfrows snaps much more juice 

Today, I just don't see it. Moreover, Horn can't block worth a sh¡t. If you can't get Renfrow the ball, without trying to get him killed in the process, you have issues. Renfrow's problem is Bryce, and I stand by that.

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26 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Today, I just don't see it. Moreover, Horn can't block worth a sh¡t. If you can't get Renfrow the ball, without trying to get him killed in the process, you have issues. Renfrow's problem is Bryce, and I stand by that.

Same with XL.  XL catch % during Bryces "good games" stretch was 51% vs 63% with Andy Dalton

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51 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Today, I just don't see it. Moreover, Horn can't block worth a sh¡t. If you can't get Renfrow the ball, without trying to get him killed in the process, you have issues. Renfrow's problem is Bryce, and I stand by that.

If the hill your gonna die on is Hunter Renfrows run blocking i don't what to tell you 

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On 10/7/2025 at 7:29 AM, AceBoogie said:

Bryce can play beyond 20 yards when the team can play beyond 20 yards. The physics of football don’t change from college to NFL. Bryce had one of the best deep balls in college football. He also had surprise surprise, speed at the WR position. Our fastest WR is 5’8 bruh and he just got on the field. Your take is lazy as always. 

This is unequivocally false on so many levels, we'll just leave it at that. 

He was bad at deep balls at Alabama and has below average arm strength. He also has problems reading defenses from the pocket. Has poor foot mechanics and gets happy feet too much. I could keep going but those are his major issues. 

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