Week 6 PFF grades vs. DAL

[outlaw4]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Rico did have some misses in pass blocking and that may be where Chuba sneaks back in.  82 feels low for his rushing still hahahaah 

Unless Rico can go over 150 yards every game, going to be hard to stay as the lead back if you can't pass block at all. 

[Bear Hands]

FWIW, I think it shows that this was a really solid team performance.  A lot in green/fringe green.  If someone had sub 10-snaps, the grade can be misleading but overall, just a nice day.  The entire team looked like they wanted to kick Dallas in the teeth.  Especially in our run game.

[PNW_PantherMan]

I think one thing that limits the usefulness of these is how they are weighted.  It seems like certain position groups are weighted across the grading scale differently.  You can't really compare different positions, so comparing grades between the RB and the LG don't even really work.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

As I pointed out in another thread, run grades are not simply based upon statistical production---even the running part. They look at expectations based upon how well the line and other skill players blocked for you as well on each play. The O-line has been blocking extremely well making things a lot easier for RBs.

And that's a great grade by the way.

PFF also is just a bunch of randos bullshitting up stuff with their own biases all over their "grading". 

any grading system that thinks Rico had the 10th best day on offense.....needs to spend some time in front of a mirror and ask themselves why they are so silly.  There grades continue to often make zero sense.  Especially, how they are then used by the masses and wielded. 

and I think Carolina PFF folks are also now self aware of how they are critiqued on Bryce Young at this point given their "check this out"!!! about Bryce facts/highlights.  

[Donald LaFell]

They said on the podcast last week that the run blocking was so good that the RB grade wouldn’t reflect the production. I can understand the rationale. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

They said on the podcast last week that the run blocking was so good that the RB grade wouldn’t reflect the production. I can understand the rationale. 

Rico had 122 rushing yards after contact Sunday.   Rationale ain't rationalizing. 

[Tr3ach]

3 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Also lol what if we have always had 2 elite LBs on this roster and just had them playing the wrong spot 

Yea it is crazy the change in inside linebacker play the past two weeks.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, outlaw4 said:

Unless Rico can go over 150 yards every game, going to be hard to stay as the lead back if you can't pass block at all. 

I thought he also was put into some really tough pass protection spots Sunday.....and I'm sure being the workhorse all day and cramping up again made it even tougher. 

I just don't see how we can be critical of Rico for not having a literally perfect game.  Which is what it feels like nitpicking about 3 pass pro plays. 

[SCMunnerlyn1]

3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

I thought Legette would be higher too. He's normally pretty good blocking for the run. 

He probably got dinged as a whole on that fumble pitch he attempted as well. 

[outlaw4]

8 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Yea it is crazy the change in inside linebacker play the past two weeks.

Trevin taking over calling the plays was all that was needed, apparently. Downside is that we're in big trouble if he goes down. Rozeboom cannot be the fallback plan.

[Basbear]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

PFF also is just a bunch of randos bullshitting up stuff with their own biases all over their "grading". 

any grading system that thinks Rico had the 10th best day on offense.....needs to spend some time in front of a mirror and ask themselves why they are so silly.  There grades continue to often make zero sense.  Especially, how they are then used by the masses and wielded. 

and I think Carolina PFF folks are also now self aware of how they are critiqued on Bryce Young at this point given their "check this out"!!! about Bryce facts/highlights.  

Its soo crazy how they were able to grift norime NFL fans. Evero can go-to JC horn and tell him if he calls cover2, he needs to man2man the player in front of him. Then when PFF "grades" the play, -50 points Horn didn't play his zone in cover2 shell. 

 

Still if you have no idea on a player, PFF is about so good as a rando x/twatter self proclaimed NFL film watcher. Like if @TheSpecialJuan makes a comment about how well a player did, its the same as PFF "grades"....

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Basbear

[Icege]

50 minutes ago, CRA said:

I thought he also was put into some really tough pass protection spots Sunday.....and I'm sure being the workhorse all day and cramping up again made it even tougher. 

I just don't see how we can be critical of Rico for not having a literally perfect game.  Which is what it feels like nitpicking about 3 pass pro plays. 

It's weird how when Bryce plays well that you and a couple of other fans will try to diminish it by saying that the opposing defense was bad but then in the same breath you'll demand flowers for a different player's performance against the same defense.

[Castavar]

Trevin and Rozeboom remind me (obviously at a smaller scale) of when they had Beason as the mic and Luke beside him. Luke looked very average and was out of position a lot until he swapped to mic. REALLY hoping this is another case of that. Just on eye test alone that swap has been a night and day difference. 

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, Icege said:

It's weird how when Bryce plays well that you and a couple of other fans will try to diminish it by saying that the opposing defense was bad but then in the same breath you'll demand flowers for a different player's performance against the same defense.

"Plays well" vs "near historic performance" are pretty different things. It's important to keep in mind the Cowboys passing defense is league worst and their run defense is nearly so, for sure. But one of those two players vastly outperformed what most other players have done versus the Cowboys and the other had fewer yards than typical (but still played very well imo, and did all we needed him to). Rico pretty much doubled up virtually every other single back that has played the Cowboys. 

So yeah I get why people would be surprised that Rico is so far down the list of O players.