I’m not sure people understand how fuging bad it is

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ProcessBlue2 said:

He’s also probably waiting on Canales and Morgan to say they are done with it. If he makes them, it’s hard to hold them accountable later. Part of “stepping back”

Hence the part that if they pick up the 5th a lot of jobs are on the line with that outcome.  Morgan and DC most certainly.

They draft a guy or get a decent vet then the clock somewhat resets.  Saying you are rolling with BY for 2 more years is signing your death wish if it doesnt work

[strato]

6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I legitimately like Bryce the person. He'd be awesome to root for if he was delivering. He's just not and I don't think he has the physical capability if delivering on a regular basis. That sucks but it just is what it is.

Said it before, I avoided his articles, interviews, pressers, all of it for a long time because I don’t want it personalized. I mean I knew nothing about him when I ‘scouted’ him and came to the ‘aw hell no’ conclusion in less than an hour. 

But you can’t avoid it forever, and I came to learn that he has great character afa I can tell, is a really good kid, and if he could play I would absolutely be a huge fan. 
 

God gave him everything but that NFL player gift. Sorry Bryce I can’t do it. 

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[ProcessBlue2]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hence the part that if they pick up the 5th a lot of jobs are on the line with that outcome.  Morgan and DC most certainly.

They draft a guy or get a decent vet then the clock somewhat resets.  Saying you are rolling with BY for 2 more years is signing your death wish if it doesnt work

Exactly. He’s going to have to look like Mahomes the next 5 games for Morgan to take the option. He’s more likely to get traded on his 4th year or go against real competition. I’m not a football executive but I’d really just get him out ASAP this offseason so there is no chance of having him come back in next year and fool everyone into another deal.

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[Cpt slay a ho]

6 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Everyone shitting on Tepper about being impatient. He’s trying to prove he’s not impatient. Tepper in 2020 would have gotten rid of Bryce already.

He’s also probably waiting on Canales and Morgan to say they are done with it. If he makes them, it’s hard to hold them accountable later. Part of “stepping back”

If that’s the case then canales and Morgan are blind, I want to believe that tepper is just chillin and letting Dave and Dan do their thing but they’re seeing the same thing we are but with a lot more information, film, advance stats etc and still think sub 200 yards per game and like 4 ypa is a winning formula? Would understand more if we didn’t just have a game where our RBs got a total of 9 touches while averaging 5 yard per carry, it just doesn’t add up

[ProcessBlue2]

8 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

If that’s the case then canales and Morgan are blind, I want to believe that tepper is just chillin and letting Dave and Dan do their thing but they’re seeing the same thing we are but with a lot more information, film, advance stats etc and still think sub 200 yards per game and like 4 ypa is a winning formula? Would understand more if we didn’t just have a game where our RBs got a total of 9 touches while averaging 5 yard per carry, it just doesn’t add up

Tepper has no problem getting rid of players or coaches. He was okay with Bryce getting benched last year, was fine with getting rid of Burns. He’s not going to force anyone’s hand or prematurely fire anyone this cycle. So when/if he goes coach hunting again, he doesn’t have the impatient asshole label. 
 

I think it’s more likely Canales and/or Morgan pitched that they could fix Bryce. Or would at least try to.

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[strato]

9 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I think it’s more likely Canales and/or Morgan pitched that they could fix Bryce. Or would at least try to.

I think yes absolutely that was the mandate. He wasn’t hiring someone like Frank that said they couldn’t fix him. 
I am gonna parse it the way I would discuss it with him, and that would be hey you know this is a tall order.

I know what I am doing and will do my best and if he listens and does the work I can help him. But I can’t promise miracles and if he turns out to be a lost cause don’t blame me for it. 

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[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I think it’s more likely Canales and/or Morgan pitched that they could fix Bryce. Or would at least try to.

If that's the case and they haven't given up on that pipe dream then just fire them.

[toldozer]

Give me Allar or Sellers I'm not sold on either but at least they look the part and I think allar will be available late in the draft. Not sure how long he's out with injury. Then bring in a vet as well

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

I honestly think Bryce is so well-liked in the building from a personality standpoint that no one wants to have to be the asshole to him.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Tepper has no problem getting rid of players or coaches. He was okay with Bryce getting benched last year, was fine with getting rid of Burns. He’s not going to force anyone’s hand or prematurely fire anyone this cycle. So when/if he goes coach hunting again, he doesn’t have the impatient asshole label. 
 

I think it’s more likely Canales and/or Morgan pitched that they could fix Bryce. Or would at least try to.

I'm not so sure. Something about the whole Frank/Bryce situation seemed off from day 1. Bryce didn't fit Frank's QB mold as well as Stroud, then he basically gives up when Bryce is named starter in preseason but gets virtually no reps in games. Then he looks completely unprepared and Dalton steps in in Seattle, has a decent game under immense pressure, and it's right back to Bryce. All his mechanics are terrible and he's having the worst rookie season ever and Frank doesn't bench him? 

You dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to know Bryce wasn't ready to be a day 1 starter. Everything with Bryce, then coaches, and the FO seemed forced. 

[MHS831]

13 hours ago, Waldo said:

It will be worse when they pick up his 5th. You know they want to do it

We have the Rams, Seahawks, Bucs twice--I do not see Bryce shining through it.

I think they would be crazy to offer him the fifth year option, but if they have no backup plan--which they don't--and they solidified that when they signed Dalton.  I imagine that he will stay as a transitional backup to tutor the new QB--

I think there is some opportunity this year for a young QB.  I personally like some of the players who have dropped a bit--but if they do nothing and sign this pussy for another year--and I wanted to like Bryce, but that "doggonit" hand spank when he threw the pic at the goal line--then the look to the sideline as if he was hungry and ready for the nipple--just pissed me off.  The play calling?  Bad.  Why?  The do not have confidence in their QB.

[Stuart Smith]

9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've never seen a player get a leash this long before. Bryce is the perfect awful combination of massive investment, limited ceiling, awful play, and being a genuinely good guy and teammate to create an absolute QB quagmire. We absolutely have to move on after this season. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Sam Howell is making under 5 million a year with Minnesota. If we do not draft a quarterback at least give us a different face for next year. Andy ain’t it. 

[mrcompletely11]

9 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

Sam Howell is making under 5 million a year with Minnesota. If we do not draft a quarterback at least give us a different face for next year. Andy ain’t it. 

You mean philly