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Our Next QB: The Qualifiers


Bear Hands
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4 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

I agree... the improvements we saw at the end of last year just has not materialized this year. I wondered the same thing. Is Bryce REALLY putting in the work in the off-season and during the season to be the best QB1 he can be? There seems to be a competitive fire that is missing with Bryce. I've been rooting for the kid, I really have. But yeah, there's a point where you just have to be honest about it. In Houston, they're not asking this question, right?

I don't see it being tolerated in Houston 

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16 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

I agree... the improvements we saw at the end of last year just has not materialized this year. I wondered the same thing. Is Bryce REALLY putting in the work in the off-season and during the season to be the best QB1 he can be? There seems to be a competitive fire that is missing with Bryce. I've been rooting for the kid, I really have. But yeah, there's a point where you just have to be honest about it. In Houston, they're not asking this question, right?

I really think a lot of what people took from last season was kind of what they wanted to take, but I am not sure it was justified. 
 

There is a relativity thing in play. Said it before last year started too, 2024. And it is, simplified, that he was so bad that he could be twice as good and still be below average. Very general estimates there but the point is he had a long way to go to be good vs NFL standards. 
 

I think he was better but not there. People saw it relative to how bad he had been and blew it up to something it wasn’t. I mean yes he was much better, but better than what?
 

He needed to show improvement this season over his ‘resurgence’ to finish 2024. That is proving to be difficult for him. He has topped out. His ceilings are okay to good, and when he plays Atlanta, very good. But his floor is still really low. 
 

I don’t think that is changing this year if it didn’t against the Saints and on Monday. I am okay with pulling the plug and really don’t feel the need to watch him play out the string. 

I guess he has 5 games to flip that.

 

 

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There is a feeling amongst Colts fans that Daniel Jones will not resign with them because he knows it’s his opportunity to make bank and they won’t pay it. 
 

I think Mac Jones will be off limits because he will replace Purdy eventually (now or later) and he’s under contract.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jacksonville moved on from Lawrence, probably not this season but he’s getting a lot of blame for stuff that’s not his fault down there. 
 

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rattler set free. He actually didn’t do horrible this season.

Cooper Rush is just sitting up there for the Ravens. Did fine with Dallas but he’s severely out of system with them and probably why he had trouble when he started. 

I would keep an eye on Davis Mills. I think he will be our QB next season. Hes the better version of the QBs Dan and Dave keep signing to the practice squad and doing a nice job in Houston. He is going to start and his neck is going to be the back up.

 

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33 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

There is a feeling amongst Colts fans that Daniel Jones will not resign with them because he knows it’s his opportunity to make bank and they won’t pay it. 
 

I think Mac Jones will be off limits because he will replace Purdy eventually (now or later) and he’s under contract.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jacksonville moved on from Lawrence, probably not this season but he’s getting a lot of blame for stuff that’s not his fault down there. 
 

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rattler set free. He actually didn’t do horrible this season.

Cooper Rush is just sitting up there for the Ravens. Did fine with Dallas but he’s severely out of system with them and probably why he had trouble when he started. 

I would keep an eye on Davis Mills. I think he will be our QB next season. Hes the better version of the QBs Dan and Dave keep signing to the practice squad and doing a nice job in Houston. He is going to start and his neck is going to be the back up.

 

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Mills got extended through next year, and with Stroud dealing with a concussion for multiple weeks I don't see why they'd just give him away in the offseason

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After 3 years of a QB room with only one egg in the basket, it's time for a different approach. 1. Trade Bryce to anyone for anything especially if they take on his salary, 2, Cut Dalton, should have never signed him to begin with. 3. For what or just a little more salary cap saved on BY. sign two of the FA  "reclaim projects", Sam, Trey, or other. Tell both they will fight it out for the starting spot & have 3-4 months before TC to get ready. 4. Draft a QB on day 3, plan for him to sit and learn for a year at least. He may not turn into a starter but backup spot has turned into a dire need around the league. There are some interesting QBs from lesser known programs that will be available, some as UDFAs. 5. If Bryce is untradable, take our medicine and cut him anyway.

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17 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

We are here.  We have arrived at this moment.  

So, where are we at? Me (and I really don't think this is too much to ask)

Non-Negotiables

  • Hits baseline mass/strength/body type standards of a pro-QB (i.e. at least the avg 6'1 215) - sorry Kyler, Russ
  • Above Average (at minimum) arm strength 
  • Pocket proficiency: Well-refined mechanics & pro-level footwork
  • Can effectively run a QB sneak
  • Can attempt half-time ending prayer shots
  • Functional Speed/Quickness
  • Awareness (Particularly pre-snap) 

Negotiables:

  • Strengths in intermediate/second level throws 
  • FA vs. Rookie - just find the guys you like, multiple/a competition would be fine
  • Mobility-type - doesn't need to be a runner (I.E. Hurts, Daniels), he just needs to have the combination of speed and size to utilize 
  • Pro-level scheme knowledge/experience - if he has the tools, you can develop with the right guys around you.  Allen didn't have this, Mahomes not much.  

Who's eliminated:

Bryce, Kyler, Russ, Nuss

Who's Not:

FA: Howell (baseline FA), Levis, Lance, Pickett, Stidham, Mariota...yuck, but you get the picture

Draft: Simpson, Mendoza, D Moore, Maiava

 

this is where we are...

Draft 2 qbs and sign Howell, Mac Jones, or Levis, or mills

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2 hours ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Next years QB room needs to be a shotgun blast

Reclamation project (Lance is my choice)
+ vet (Geno or Mariota)

+ draft pick.

Let them duke it out all year 

Don't completely agree with the picks but 100% agree with the strategy.

I have been saying this for weeks now. As @LinvilleGorge pointed out, it's the strategy the Giants employed and although not successful, it has at least given them ample options when one fails.

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someone with a strong enough arm to play football outdoors. 

Bryce Young has 39 NFL starts.  

He has just 7 games indoors.  

In those 7 games, they contain 83% of his starts where he threw for more than 2 TDs (so every game but 1 was indoors) and 53% of his 200+ yard games as a passer. 

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