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Is Dumb Ass Dave Canalas the Worst Panthers Coach?


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Then everybody else that was at least at the NFL level.  

Most of Dave's issues stem from him not being experienced enough. His time at OC was way too short IMO and his previous stuff was fluffer up in Seatle. They even demoted him from passing game coordinator or something after 1 year back to QB coach under an offensive HC who ran everything anyways. He is in year 4 of coaching above the QB level basically. He also appears more interested in  self promotion than improving his damn skills. 

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Canales has the problem of an amateur lifeguard. He's trying desperately to save the career of a floundering young QB, not realizing that he is being pulled underwater by the kid and that there are 52 other players who are about to be pulled under as well.

Sometimes you have to let the one go to save yourself and get to the others.

 

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Can we let Canales have a real QB before we crucify him? 

We aren't pulling a top coach yet, need to let Dave get a season with an actual QB. 

I firmly believe if we had just an average QB we have at least a two game lead in the division right now. 

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Fox's last year was pretty awful. He was already packed up and had 1 foot out the door.

Who ever was the post- Rivera interim was mostly forgettable. So much that I have already forgotten his name. Ferrel? Fewer? Whatever.

Rhule though is like the 1 ring to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.

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17 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Fox's last year was pretty awful. He was already packed up and had 1 foot out the door.

Who ever was the post- Rivera interim was mostly forgettable. So much that I have already forgotten his name. Ferrel? Fewer? Whatever.

Rhule though is like the 1 ring to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.

Totally lost respect for Fox over his pettiness in 2010. 
He went from hero to zero for me. I loathed him because of it. He quit but stuck for that check. 
 

edit: but, it was just one season. Before that he was pretty darned good. 

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