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EVERY single one of us with an IQ > 10 WANTED Ben Johnson, DID NOT WANT Bryce Young

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

The last two weeks they’ve been boat raced by Penn state and Iowa. Rhule still hasn’t beat a top 25 opponent. 

I don't follow much college ball (probably why I didn't know about Reich); but I saw maybe a month or so ago he was all in the headlines and being talked about for a big extension.

Made him sound like he could be the Mayor of Nebraska if he wanted 😂

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33 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Preach brotha. Just another case of "the huddle was right" yet again. To be fair though, Ben Johnson was NEVER coming here. He noped tf outta here after his first interview. Adam Peters didn't even want anything to do with us either. Smart football minds are avoiding Tepper like the plague. Speaks volumes. 

No one with better options is going to deal with Teppers bullshit.

He won't allow the football people to build the team they want. 

Last time we were hiring he wanted someone to work with Bryce ,GM and coach, that's why we got Dan and Dave, no one else was putting their careers on the line for him especially after seeing his rookie season.

Bunch of dumbasses fuged us over, Stroud is a borderline top ten QB and we got a bottom 5 QB because he was Teppers pick.

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7 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Andrew Luck is his GM. Got a good thing going.

He was handpicked by Andrew Luck.  Andrew Luck knows football.   Frank Reich was sabotaged.  When local reporters were talking about the in house split….folks tied Frank were in the house making a hard sell on CJ as a “Frank QB”. 

Sure, Tepper is the dude that hires everyone but there is no doubt the split was GM office and staff IMO.  Tepper broke the split and when Tepper talked about the why we went with Bryce…..it was total GM talk about roster management.  

and there is no way  Dan and Dan’s staff were  anti Bryce and Fitterer was the lone voice in the GM office selling Tepper.  Still think Dan is getting a pass he doesn’t deserve on Bryce. 

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

No one with better options is going to deal with Teppers bullshit.

He won't allow the football people to build the team they want. 

Last time we were hiring he wanted someone to work with Bryce ,GM and coach, that's why we got Dan and Dave, no one else was putting their careers on the line for him especially after seeing his rookie season.

Bunch of dumbasses fuged us over, Stroud is a borderline top ten QB and we got a bottom 5 QB because he was Teppers pick.

Sure he will, he lets both his soccer and football people build teams.  Problem was and IMO is…..the folks he hired to build the team.  What is the GM office. 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

Sure he will, he lets both his soccer and football people build teams.  Problem was and IMO is…..the folks he hired to build the team.  What is the GM office. 

So you think he was cool with ditching Bryce in our last hiring cycle and he had no input on selecting Bryce instead of Stroud?

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9 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

So you think he was cool with ditching Bryce in our last hiring cycle and he had no input on selecting Bryce instead of Stroud?

I’ve already said I think he broke the in house/tie split.  And that’s probably a pretty normal thing for an owner.   

I think this past hiring cycle, Tepper’s reputation didn’t allow him to hire anyone good.  He hired a firm to go find people.  I do think we have 2 pro teams to judge him off of.  I don’t think anyone good was available for him or willing to come here last cycle……..so his only option was basically to keep it all going.  

All we really did was remove Fitterer and change some of O coaching staff from the Frank era.  The folks at the top remain more the same than they are different.   Both in the front office and top O advisors like Jim Caldwell.  So, I think the Bryce issue is still largely a product of the people hired…..and Caldwell, Morgan and company got more say than the unqualified Canales 

I was anti everyone that brought us Bryce.  I wanted a new GM office.  I wanted Jim Caldwell gone.  

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. If you're a hot name in the coaching carousel then Carolina isn't on your list of potential destinations.

Funny enough, if not for the trade with us, the Bears wouldn't have been attractive to Ben Johnson. We played a role in getting him to go elsewhere.

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

He was handpicked by Andrew Luck.  Andrew Luck knows football.   Frank Reich was sabotaged.  When local reporters were talking about the in house split….folks tied Frank were in the house making a hard sell on CJ as a “Frank QB”. 

Sure, Tepper is the dude that hires everyone but there is no doubt the split was GM office and staff IMO.  Tepper broke the split and when Tepper talked about the why we went with Bryce…..it was total GM talk about roster management.  

and there is no way  Dan and Dan’s staff were  anti Bryce and Fitterer was the lone voice in the GM office selling Tepper.  Still think Dan is getting a pass he doesn’t deserve on Bryce. 

Thank you. I had a long, too long post working about how Frank was given a raw deal by posters here. 
Luck could have hired anyone. He was coached in tne NFL by Frank and thought enough of him to select him as his first hire.


Bryce was Frank’s fault. Not Bryce’s. Shitty scheme. That was the talk. 
We never saw what he would have done because the QB he was forced to use couldn’t execute it. I hear the people who said he was bland and predictable in Indy. Maybe he was. I don’t think Bryce could run that poo though so it’s probably moot. 

Anyhow Frank was everybody’s original Bryce scapegoat. He is kind of a tragic figure in the sense that I bet he had high hopes and being in Charlotte meant something to him - and he is the fired villain in a colossal clusterfug. 
 

I am sure he is fine and probably happier coaching Stanford at this point, just sayin he was often unfairly maligned in the summer and fall of 2023.  

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