Canales is holding us back

[Khyber53]

11 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Yeah, we so badly chose the wrong Bucs OC...

Only good news is that with the bucs winning the division, they will keep Bowles most likely 

Umm, the Bucs that lost to New Orleans' wunderkind and Atlanta's grandpa?

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

It isn’t Canales. It’s Bryce. It’s our draft strategy. To adequately utilize the receivers we drafted, you need a Joe Burrow style of QB, not Bryce. Bryce would thrive with a room like the Chiefs have. They even called him mini-Mahomes when he was drafted yet refuse to build the same style of offensive personnel. 

Not even talking about Bryce. His in game recognition and adjustments are staggeringly slow. He's not seeing the whole picture because he's focused too much on calling plays. He needs to concentrate on being a HC. He's not good enough to do both. 

[Mr. Scot]

Canales has improved over time, but he's still learning. 

That he's actually capable of learning puts him a cut above a fair number of unsuccessful coaches.

[Waldo]

Canales is limited like much of this build. Good news is that the NFL has built in parady so that gives every team an easy pass to hover around .500 when they are not openly shooting themselves in the feet. 

[electro's horse]

58 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Umm, the Bucs that lost to New Orleans' wunderkind and Atlanta's grandpa?

 

He’s probably referring to Liam cohen. 

[amcoolio]

Bryce may suck but Kellen Moore thoroughly pants'd Canales in both meetings. And Moore was someone we brought in and said "no thanks", just like Steichen and Harbaugh. Tepper has zero eye for identifying football talent. 

That said, Canales deserves another year, but he has to show improvement next year

Edited December 15, 2025 by amcoolio

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Bryce may suck but Kellen Moore thoroughly pants'd Canales in both meetings. And Moore was someone we brought in and said "no thanks", just like Steichen and Harbaugh. Tepper has zero eye for identifying football talent. 

That said, Canales deserves another year, but he has to show improvement next year

Kellen Moore is a very good coach. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

On 12/14/2025 at 8:12 PM, mrBdawg said:

Maybe the dog poo play calling, especially the 4th down!

I don't take any issue with the 4th down call. He's always been aggressive, which is how he should be. It just didn't go our way this time. Overall we've had a good amount of success on 4th down this year so I don't blame him. A field goal from that spot was far from a sure thing.

[RumHam]

On 12/14/2025 at 7:35 PM, Gladniator1 said:

It's obvious at this point. When NO rookie QB's can make throws into the middle of the field for first down after first down, but our 3rd year QB gets these weird play calls that can't find a single person open, it's not on Bryce. It's obviously coaching. So tired of this poo.

NEVER FORGET!!!!

 

Canales was on no one's radar. Tepper couldn't get anyone to come here. He was all in on Ben Johnson. Nobody wants to work with Tepper, however Canales tenure may prove important for the next guy. This guy still has no idea what he's doing. 

[Moonraker]

52 minutes ago, RumHam said:

NEVER FORGET!!!!

 

Canales was on no one's radar. Tepper couldn't get anyone to come here. He was all in on Ben Johnson. Nobody wants to work with Tepper, however Canales tenure may prove important for the next guy. This guy still has no idea what he's doing. 

I've seen enough tape review to see that we run crossers...we have dudes in the middle of the field. I have to think that this is a harder area for someone of Bryce's stature to hit. You have to see directly over the center of the line and is probably where the most interceptions happen (he has thrown a LOT of his picks by not seeing a dude in the middle of the field).

[Silent Majority]

Is the OP trolling? 

[PootieNunu]

On 12/15/2025 at 10:45 AM, amcoolio said:

Bryce may suck but Kellen Moore thoroughly pants'd Canales in both meetings. And Moore was someone we brought in and said "no thanks", just like Steichen and Harbaugh. Tepper has zero eye for identifying football talent. 

That said, Canales deserves another year, but he has to show improvement next year

Hard to show any improvement unless we get a real QB, not one we have to hide for 3 downs and say a prayer on 4th

[toldozer]

On 12/14/2025 at 7:35 PM, Gladniator1 said:

It's obvious at this point. When NO rookie QB's can make throws into the middle of the field for first down after first down, but our 3rd year QB gets these weird play calls that can't find a single person open, it's not on Bryce. It's obviously coaching. So tired of this poo.

I don't think Dave touches the defense. That might be a mark against him but definitely a huge red flag for evero. He refuses to run anything other than soft zone and when you don't get pressure that's an awful scheme

[Waldo]

48 minutes ago, toldozer said:

I don't think Dave touches the defense. That might be a mark against him but definitely a huge red flag for evero. He refuses to run anything other than soft zone and when you don't get pressure that's an awful scheme

Only touching the O in year 1 is understandable but if the DC has to be begged to do something beyond that then that says a LOT about your HC skills and ability IMO.