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Falcons are trying to take Tillis

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54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You mean getting DB back?

If you want honesty, A. Robinson and DB are the only guys that have appreciably worked out well for us on that DL. They also pre-dated Dan Morgan.

Now, admittedly I think where Evero plays some of these guys has an impact on dome of them struggling.

Morgan signed Robinson in March 2024.

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2 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Fully agree.  I tell my boss all the time.  My job isn't to make the best decision.  I will tell you what I think the best decision is but my job is to make the decision my boss decides on to work.  How do I make what he wants work even if I think there is a better option.

This is the most wins we've had since 2017.  In fact there have only been 10 seasons (out of 30) we've won 8 games or more in franchise history.  We're in the playoffs and won the division.  That also hasn't happened since 2017.  

The last 8 years of Rhule, Reich and looking under every rock for a QB left us at probably the worst point in franchise history.  I'm giving a ton of credit to the current brain trust.  I want to keep Morgan, Canales, and Tillis together for the foreseeable future.  

Fans expect too much, too fast because out of 32 teams you can see when a team gets lucky and hits a homerun with a FA or draft pick and expect that is the standard.  

  

 

Yes we won 8 games, but we didn't achieve 500 status. We didn't win our way into the playoffs. Atlanta had to do it for us. We are the only team in NFL history to get into the playoffs twice with a losing record. That's not something to be proud of IMO. If NO had started Shough instead of Rattler, we probably wouldn't be in at all. We have the 4th worst point differential of any team in playoff history. That's over 300 teams. If we're being honest, we don't deserve to be in the playoffs with the way we played this year. We just happened to be in the shittiest division in football. I'd be pissed if I was the Vikings and the Lions. Both have winning records and are sitting at home. If we were sitting at home with a 9-8 record while a "division winner" hosted a playoff game with a 8-9 record because their division was total ass, this board would lose its poo. 

I'd like to keep Tillis too and think we should do what we have to to keep him. I don't think it's a fluke that all of a sudden we improved in close scoring games and KC suddenly declined. I also don't think it's a fluke our draft improved and KCs declined overall. 

I don't know that fans expect too much. Other franchises are making significant visible changes in a single season and not from a single draft pick. You see teams make business decisions instead of emotional ones. I think our expectations are too low honestly. Our offense it putrid. We're in the bottom 1/3 in almost every category. DC is not a good OC. His in game decision making is awful. 

Successful franchises do good things over and over and we don't mimic them. We blaze our own Oregon Trail and wind up dead with dysentery more often than not. I hope it changes and I think if it does, Tillis will be a huge part of it. I think he's may deserve more credit than he's gotten to this point. 

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On 1/7/2026 at 8:26 AM, Tr3ach said:

He wasnt a pff guy that I know of, he came from the chiefs.  You are thinking of Eric Eager I believe, who also plays a huge role and I wouldn't want him leaving. 

Eager might have been PFF at some point but he came to us from a company that Thomas Dimitrof was part of, I don’t know much about it or even remember the name but it was newly formed and was a consultant type of operation. Supposed to be all about analytics and helping teams in that area. I read about it a couple of years ago. I read so much stuff I can’t really keep it all on file in the brain but that’s what I remember. 

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On 1/6/2026 at 9:28 PM, ProcessBlue2 said:

He fixed the OL. He fixed the DL. 
 

I think some of you, don’t realize how bad Fitterer fuged this place up. poo roster, no money, no picks. He’s done a lot with little to work with. It takes time to fix what one of the worst GMs ever did 

We had so much dead cap--

When Dan Morgan was promoted to general manager and president of football operations for the Carolina Panthers in January 2024, the team was facing a substantial $69.3 million in dead cap space for the 2024 NFL season--that is like taking the annual salaries for three or four elite players and throwing them away. Most teams only have about 6-8 elite players (Hunt, Moton, Horn, Brown, Lewis, Ekwonu, Young for now) and these are the players that win games.

Imagine being able to rip 3 players off any opponent's roster before playing them--that is how handicapping this is.

Morgan had the challenge of keeping the core together, protecting Young, and filling other positions through the draft and not free agency.  Our WR room is young, our TEs are generic, our LBs (yikes), our edge people are discount low-budget and rookies--We lucked out with Mike Jackson--but his drafts have been solid--yes, he drafted XL, but that was because it was a desperate move--but he also signed Coker.  Yes, he drafted Brooks--but he also signed Dowdle.  Aside from those draft picks, our rookies and sophomores are making a difference.  TMac, Coker, Horn Jr (WR), Evans, Sanders, Wallace, Jackson (DT), Scourton, Tremaine, Princely, Smith-Wade,  and Ransom have made a difference.  When you consider that only 50% of first rounders work out--he is 1-2.  About a third of second rounders work out--he is 1-2 (at this time).  But when you consider that about 30% of all draft picks make a roster, Morgan's rate is incredibly high.  

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2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We had so much dead cap--

When Dan Morgan was promoted to general manager and president of football operations for the Carolina Panthers in January 2024, the team was facing a substantial $69.3 million in dead cap space for the 2024 NFL season--that is like taking the annual salaries for three or four elite players and throwing them away. Most teams only have about 6-8 elite players (Hunt, Moton, Horn, Brown, Lewis, Ekwonu, Young for now) and these are the players that win games.

Imagine being able to rip 3 players off any opponent's roster before playing them--that is how handicapping this is.

Morgan had the challenge of keeping the core together, protecting Young, and filling other positions through the draft and not free agency.  Our WR room is young, our TEs are generic, our LBs (yikes), our edge people are discount low-budget and rookies--We lucked out with Mike Jackson--but his drafts have been solid--yes, he drafted XL, but that was because it was a desperate move--but he also signed Coker.  Yes, he drafted Brooks--but he also signed Dowdle.  Aside from those draft picks, our rookies and sophomores are making a difference.  TMac, Coker, Horn Jr (WR), Evans, Sanders, Wallace, Jackson (DT), Scourton, Tremaine, Princely, Smith-Wade,  and Ransom have made a difference.  When you consider that only 50% of first rounders work out--he is 1-2.  About a third of second rounders work out--he is 1-2 (at this time).  But when you consider that about 30% of all draft picks make a roster, Morgan's rate is incredibly high.  

His draft was solid. 2024 was one of the worst drafts in franchise history.

That is why I am not ready to give him too much credit yet. 2025 was a big improvement(free agency and draft) so hopefully it keeps trending that way.

If it reverts to the 2024 Fitterer 2.0 stuff, no bueno.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

His draft was solid. 2024 was one of the worst drafts in franchise history.

That is why I am not ready to give him too much credit yet. 2025 was a big improvement(free agency and draft) so hopefully it keeps trending that way.

If it reverts to the 2024 Fitterer 2.0 stuff, no bueno.

Morgan will have to get an actual starting caliber QB on the roster before I will view him as anything but below average. 

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