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We had Sam Darnold


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You cant live life this. Always wringing your hands about what could have been. Truth is as an organization we weren't ready to be responsible so we missed the opportunities when they presented themselves. Thats what we are really mad about, not missed players but having an organization that was (is?--seems to be much better) dysfunctional. Fix the foundation and the wins come, quit looking for heros to solve all the other problems that should be addressed.

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8 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

He needed to go to San Fran and Minnesota to become what he is now.

i had forgotten about san fran wonder of mac jones will have the same resurgance after shanahan works with him.  vikings fans have it even worse then panther fans though bc they let him leave when he was actually good

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9 hours ago, strato said:

I have to say, whatever the reason was, Baker was not good here, there was little indication he was gonna be good. 

Other than that I pretty much blame Tepper for the first 7 years of his stewardship being pure misery and full of fugtardedness. Things were finally somewhat improved upon in year 8. No coach under Tepper even smelled 8 wins before. And that coach did it with Bryce Young. While most people hated on him. 

How they treated the Baker/Sam thing was a joke. He was used as a DE on the PS. He may not have been any good here had he really been given a chance to succeed, but that whole situation was a clusterfug. I don't blame him for wanting out of this Tepper led poo show. 

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    • How they treated the Baker/Sam thing was a joke. He was used as a DE on the PS. He may not have been any good here had he really been given a chance to succeed, but that whole situation was a clusterfug. I don't blame him for wanting out of this Tepper led poo show. 
    • Might be the only terms on which both sides could agree. Morgan probably wanted 3 years and Mays' agent probably pushed him for a prove-it deal. Immediately leaking the desire to test the market only furthers this notion. 
    • I'm sure someone can look it up on this board, but back when we jettisoned Darnold, I'd tried to defend him saying that he was still a young QB with a high ceiling, he was just surrounded here with bad coaching and a poorly built team. I said he'd see a Super Bowl before we did.  And people just laughed.  Same folks who said Baker Mayfield sucked and was a washout. Same folks who live to slam Bryce. (And honestly, my decision on Bryce is still hanging out there, undecided, swaying from yes to no). I'm not saying I know a damned thing about raising up a QB, but I know that I'm not as clueless as some others. Some of these kids that come out as top draft picks get thrown into the fire on a badly built team, a desperate lower tier HC, OCs and QB coaches that are struggling to move up the ladder and an injured, mad fanbase that wants immediate results or it's to the chopping block with some kid that just had the temerity to do well in college football and then come to the podium when their name was called.  
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