Mike Kaye: “I would keep a pretty close eye on {KC Concepcion}.”

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Tells me more about what they think about XL than Bryce if they take another WR in the 1st 

The only way I'm taking a slot WR in the 1st is if I'm absolutely desperate for receivers and I think he's going to be an absolutely ELITE NFL slot receiver. You can find find good slot receivers in the mid-rounds. With all of our pressing needs a slot WR at 19 would be baffling.

[tukafan21]

I've said this a few times in the past few weeks, WR just cannot be on the board for us in the 1st round this year or we're just setting ourselves up for a problem in a couple of years.

As it is, we're already looking at needing to do extensions for T-Mac and Coker (assuming they both progress as we all expect) in possibly the same offseason, or at worst, just one year apart.  Adding another 1st round WR to that mix who will be eligible for an extension in the same time frame is basically already announcing that at least one of the 3 of them will not be on the team in 4 years time.

I realize you want to maximize your team's ability every season, but using a 1st round pick on a player you either know will be sent out 4 years from now and/or they will push out another young player you're really high on (Coker), just would be a poor use of current assets.  

Just look at how much it screwed over the Bengals to have to pay Burrow, Chase, and Higgins all in such a short time frame, and at least one of them was a QB.

The only way I'm okay drafting a WR in the 1st this year is if we're then flipping Coker for say, a 2nd round pick.  And I don't want to trade Coker, nor do I think anyone would give us that high of a pick for him right now either.

[Aussie Tank]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only way I'm taking a slot WR in the 1st is if I'm absolutely desperate for receivers and I think he's going to be an absolutely ELITE NFL slot receiver. You can find find good slot receivers in the mid-rounds. With all of our pressing needs a slot WR at 19 would be baffling.

Sure I'd rather Kayden McDonald or the Oregon Safety but I wouldn't be too fazed if we took a WR in the first as long as they can play the position. And aren't just drafted because they're big and fast. Even if Bryce isnt the answer we want the best situation to drop the next bloke into 

[Aussie Tank]

5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I've said this a few times in the past few weeks, WR just cannot be on the board for us in the 1st round this year or we're just setting ourselves up for a problem in a couple of years.

As it is, we're already looking at needing to do extensions for T-Mac and Coker (assuming they both progress as we all expect) in possibly the same offseason, or at worst, just one year apart.  Adding another 1st round WR to that mix who will be eligible for an extension in the same time frame is basically already announcing that at least one of the 3 of them will not be on the team in 4 years time.

I realize you want to maximize your team's ability every season, but using a 1st round pick on a player you either know will be sent out 4 years from now and/or they will push out another young player you're really high on (Coker), just would be a poor use of current assets.  

Just look at how much it screwed over the Bengals to have to pay Burrow, Chase, and Higgins all in such a short time frame, and at least one of them was a QB.

The only way I'm okay drafting a WR in the 1st this year is if we're then flipping Coker for say, a 2nd round pick.  And I don't want to trade Coker, nor do I think anyone would give us that high of a pick for him right now either.

The Bengals fuged up because they didnt flip Higgens for quality draft capital. You can never have too many good weapons. 

[csx]

We aren't taking him at 19.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

19 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Sure I'd rather Kayden McDonald or the Oregon Safety but I wouldn't be too fazed if we took a WR in the first as long as they can play the position. And aren't just drafted because they're big and fast. Even if Bryce isnt the answer we want the best situation to drop the next bloke into 

Meanwhile, entire OL is either aging, trying to come back from serious injury, and/or on short term contracts. A WR would very much be a panic prop Bryce up move. If you're actually trying to build a balanced long-term roster there's better arguments for most other position groups on the roster. We ha e a young stud in T-Mac. Another promising youngster opposite him and slot WRs can be found in the mid to late rounds or mid-level FA contracts. Slot WR at 19 given our roster would be crazy

[tukafan21]

19 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

The Bengals fuged up because they didnt flip Higgens for quality draft capital. You can never have too many good weapons. 

Sure, but that’s because a 2nd rounder they drafted before Chase ended up becoming what he did.

Higgins play put them in the situation, we’d be drafting a player with the expectation/hope that they pan out and thus putting ourselves into the situation.

There is a big difference between the two there.

Not a fan of drafting a player in the 1st round knowing we HAVE to trade him or another young player we like within a few years because we can’t pay them both (all).

We were a sub .500 team, and while I love our FA’s so far, we still have far too many needs to use our 1st rounder in that way right now.  If it was the final piece to make us a SB contender, sure, you do it and hope you win a ring in the first couple years and then who cares what you have to deal with, it got the job done.

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

The Bengals fuged up because they didnt flip Higgens for quality draft capital. You can never have too many good weapons. 

The Bengals absolutely fuged up paying Higgins elite WR money. You can't have your QB and two WRs eating up your whole cap or you end up with... well, the Bengals. Your QB is getting killed because your OL is trash and you can't stop anybody because your D is trash because you can't afford a balanced roster. Unless you're smacking it out of the park in the draft you're gonna be hard pressed to put a good team on the field despite an elite QB and WRs.