every team this year can beat us if rivera doesn't make adjustments from the broncos game.

[GoobyPls]

The receivers cost us the game more than the line or coaches. No separation and 5 crucial drops 2 in the red zone one which was an interception.

 

Going into the game I knew our Oline was outmatched. We rely way to much on max protection which limits the receiving options 

[CarolinaJami']

-I thought it was called a green dog blitz, but whatever.

As most people have said, Denver had very solid personnel to make all of that happen.

One common aspect of all of those plays was the down and distance. This is where we got in trouble. We were always in 3rd and long. Losing on 1st and 2nd down was a bigger issue in my opinion.

Either way I'm pretty sure the coaches have realized all of this and we won't get beat the same way over and over all season.

 

[imminent rogaine]

12 hours ago, PhillyB said:

Other thoughts:

 

1) Not every team has a Von Miller. But teams don't need to hold us to 7 offensive points. Allow double that and run an efficient passing attack against a neophyte secondary and you've beaten the Panthers. Rivera and co. should be taking every pass rusher seriously now that this weakness has been betrayed.

2) One way to slow down blitzes like this is delayed releases and RB chips. Burning a couple of absent linebackers with a quick toss over the top or into the flat will keep them at bay and let blocks do what they're meant to do. This is largely why Fozzy is a much more valuable asset than people give him credit for: he's a great blocker and has veteran patience to navigate the screen game.

Seems like, in the Cardinals diagram up there, that we could try and use Stew as the extra blocker to help Remmers and have Olsen chip. If they do decide to send two or even three, dump to Olsen. If they just send two (Remmers' guy and Stewart's guy), you have to hope Olsen can win a 1on1 matchup. They do have some good covering corners and LBs, but those get diluted with the addition of KB.

Now, in 2016, It might be a diff story. Depending on the formation, you likely have some sort of combo of Benjamin, a more experienced  Funchess, Ginn, and Olsen... oh and a healthy Philly Brown that can only be stopped by decapitation. Suddenly, its a little more difficult to cover all of the options.

[SOJA]

Great post as always Philly

The Broncos defense was just so good. Even if you try screen passes, or quick routes to counter their blitzes- they have one of the best trio of CBs of all time. 

lots of lots of things didn't break our way that game. Stew getting hurt, after having a nice couple runs early, the non-catch, every Peyton Manning throw nearly being pick-sixed

[Snake]

12 hours ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

what cam should have done every time he identified the blue dog blitz or any other blitz package was simply run a delayed handoff to the RB. Watching those gifs, the Broncos were manhandling our lineman, but lets not forget that could be a blessing in disguise if the right play call is made. The over pursuit of their defensive lineman would create a sh.it load of open space at the 2nd level, and J-stew/tolbert could have gotten huge chunks of yards the moment they identified an open hole. 

i just hate the fact we didn't make any adjustments. we ran the same bs every time which clearly wasn't working. so frustrating. 

Problem was we were backed up. Our offense that night was not terrible but was crippled by penalties. It's personal choice whither you say it was rigged or not. 

[d-dave]

So I was thinking about this while having my morning constitutional.  I agree with the point other posters have made about the Panthers learning as well as the rest of the league.   Now I'm not an expert on the nuts and bolts of a football play, but as an idio with a keyboard, I think there are some options to help us against this kind of blitzing.

1. Running the ball better on first down.  This kind of goes without saying.  Keep punching dudes in the mouth all game.  We didn't do that against Denver.

2. Hot Routes -  so this is like a coaching thing.  So prepare for more moron speak....  When a LB is making that block-blitz read, the nearest reciever needs to fill that area for a quick pass.  I mean, these blitzes are going to come from the ends most of the time?  That takes those guys out of coverage duties, so why not have our big ole WRs run a quick slant or something which will attack those newly opened areas.  Maybe we don't always connect, but it keeps them from hitting Cam, and if we convert those plays in to 5-7 yarders, then the defense is going to have to prepare for that.

I remember the Broncos saying we didn't change anything, nothing new for the Super Bowl.  I can't imagine that sits well with the coaching staff.  I'd like to see us add more wrinkles into the gameplan, and I think having KB back this year is going to be extremely important for that.  It frees up Funchess to attack those open blitz areas, or some other really smart play that I don't recoginize because I'm not a coach.

Again, I think this was the most stinging of defeats for this team.  They ran roughshod over the entire NFL in 2015 only to get completely knocked off their game in the Super Bowl.  I'm pretty sure they won't make those mistakes again this year.  Or else, folks are going to lose their jobs.

[mwright350]

The same logic that applies to "if we don't change something from the superbowl we'll get beat a lot" applies to almost every game played in the NFL.  Teams are constantly looking for an edge and every team we play will do something that exposes some bit of our team to some other sort of attack.  Not everyone will do it as effectively as the Broncos did but every team will do *something* right that another team can use if our coaches don't react to it.  Be it a bad loss due or a huge win the coaches have a lot of work to do before the next game.

Add to that that the complexion of a team changes drastically from year to year even with a lot of starters returning and you  have even more impetus for self scouting and change.

I choose to believe that our two time Coach of the Year and his staff have not spent the entire offseason diddling themselves and that when we inevitably do get beat by whoever beats us this year it will not be to the exact same gameplan that beat us in the SuperBowl

[Chaos]

Please stop quoting the OP. Seeing those gifs once was bad enough, certainly don't need to happen upon them again on page 8.

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[philit99]

Ok one fact that needs to be discussed. CAM NEWTONS HAND SIGNALS WERE KNOWN at the superbowl. Cam audibles with his hands to the receivers. That dirty scumbag Alib and Harris, knew the routes the receivers were going to run presnap. Jonathan Stewart was injured on the second snap of the game. Then the blocking scheme melted down. We had two other problems before pass protection.

 

[AceBoogie]

16 hours ago, The Lobo said:

Shorter routes maybe? Could be that's why cam has put in work on his short passing game, just a guess

Part of that strip touchdown was on Cam, he had enough time to dump it to a wide open Tolbert

[Devil Doc]

I cant believe Shula let a 69 Year old Man baby ouch coach him.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

9 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

I cant believe Shula let a 69 Year old Man baby ouch coach him.

someone i knew who wasn't really into football but would watch it with me sometimes said manning looked like an adult-sized baby which i think is the most accurate way i've ever heard his appearance described

[Moorgan]

5 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

someone i knew who wasn't really into football but would watch it with me sometimes said manning looked like an adult-sized baby which i think is the most accurate way i've ever heard his appearance described

[PhillyB]

58 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

someone i knew who wasn't really into football but would watch it with me sometimes said manning looked like an adult-sized baby which i think is the most accurate way i've ever heard his appearance described

i thought he was talking about wade phillips, who also looks like a jowly infant