Tidbits from my source

[trueblade]

4 hours ago, Smithers said:

Gentleman’s drafting ability looks worse and worse by the minute.  

Just a thought but if both Gettleman and Hurney haven't drafted well, perhaps it points to an issue with our college scouts. 

[Panthers8969]

Yeah my source said we tried to trade Cam for Crabtree and they turned it down bc they don’t like players with middle names starting with J. 

 

Op, your source is either trolling you, or you’re trolling us. Raiders would never turn down a 5th and opt for nothing 

[bobsfoodbasics]

100% BS

[Manther]

Sad to hear.  He'll have missed training camp two years in row.  When I heard about the injury I thought it sounded bad.  Wonder if it hurt his speed.  To think we passed Kamera for that guy.   Uhhhhhg.

[Saca312]

I have a source who says it’s crazy to make a prognosis on Samuel’s injury this early in the game. 

[SCO96]

None of us really have any idea about the “source” cited above. But, I don’t think the Crabtree story is implausible.

Does anyone know how much time he had left on his deal with the Raiders? Was he still owed any guaranteed money?

Torey Smith was traded to us with only one remaining on his deal, and no guaranteed money. We owe him 5 million if he plays, but nothing if we cut him.

If Crabtree was in a similar situation perhaps he didn’t want to move out east knowing he could be cut and come out on the short end of a trade.

He got a 3 year/$21 million deal in Baltimore. $11 million is guaranteed with 15 million due over the first two years. He’s 30 and maybe he doesnt have as many reservation moving east knowing that he’s going to at worst walk with $11-$15 million in a Baltimore.

I do wonder why the Raiders didn’t want to trade him. I’d rather have an extra 5th round pick this year than to  lose him for nothing. It sounds crazy, but maybe they just wanted to do right by him and let pick his next destination.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

None of us really have any idea about the “source” cited above. But, I don’t think the Crabtree story is implausible.

Does anyone know how much time he had left on his deal with the Raiders? Was he still owed any guaranteed money?

Torey Smith was traded to us with only one remaining on his deal, and no guaranteed money. We owe him 5 million if he plays, but nothing if we cut him.

If Crabtree was in a similar situation perhaps he didn’t want to move out east knowing he could be cut and come out on the short end of a trade.

He got a 3 year/$21 million deal in Baltimore. $11 million is guaranteed with 15 million due over the first two years. He’s 30 and maybe he doesnt have as many reservation moving east knowing that he’s going to at worst walk with $11-$15 million in a Baltimore.

I do wonder why the Raiders didn’t want to trade him. I’d rather have an extra 5th round pick this year than to  lose him for nothing. It sounds crazy, but maybe they just wanted to do right by him and let pick his next destination.

There were two years left on his contract. It doesn't matter how much was guaranteed as the trading team eats the signing bonus anyway when a player is cut or traded. It doesn't matter what he wanted, he's under contract and the Raiders could trade that contract if they had offers on the table.

I think it's highly likely they wamted to trade him, they just couldn't find anyone to take the bait who was willing to take on Crabtree's contracted salary.

[Mr. Scot]

5 hours ago, joeyxfresco said:

Damn. Maybe he should’ve thought about that when he made the decision to damage the nerve in his ankle. 

Yeah. Sure wish Breeland would have considered this before trying to chop his foot off.

[luke nukem]

man Samuel might not ever be the same.... poo sucks.

[Pimpdaddy]

18 hours ago, Smithers said:

Gettleman’s drafting ability looks worse and worse by the minute.  

...yea, thats exactly the way im starting to feel..

[AceBoogie]

18 hours ago, stbugs said:

Yeah, that makes 0 sense. If released they get no compensation and I’m pretty sure they’d take a 5th even if Crabtree would be upset about going East. 

Y’all do understand that some teams care about the players and understand while this is a business, they aren’t dealing with livestock. Unless they got a great offer they were willing to let Crabtree choose his next stop. Classy move. Same reason Bill didn’t just ship Jimmy G to the Browns. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

who's calling the shots on personnel over there?  because if it's gruden he's infamous for being a dick and his players hating him.

[Moo Daeng]

7 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

who's calling the shots on personnel over there?  because if it's gruden he's infamous for being a dick and his players hating him.

Reggie Mckenzie 

[RoaringRiot]

@stbugs - yeah samuel might be f-ed.