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Any Chance Texans Would Trade Clowney?

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Blockbuster deals like this are not the norm in the NFL, especially this early in the season, and for such an important piece to a team's roster. If Houston keeps losing over the next few weeks and Carolina's pass rush continues to look like hot garbage, could a deal be struck?

Clowney, though oft-injured, did play a healthy 2017 season and is only 25 years old. He is a soon-to-be-FA, so we would have to re-up his contract for a long-term deal..... probably in that Danielle Hunter realm (5 year / $72M).  Clowney is miscast in the 34 defense, and would thrive and feast in a 4-3, IMO. 

It would cost us our 1st rounder in '19 + something...maybe a 3rd round pick or future 3rd. If Houston is unclear of where Clowney fits into their future or doesn't have any intention of re-signing him, I think this would be a very wise decision for us. We should be using our first rounder on a DE anyway, so instead, we get a former #1 pick. We get a comp pick for Norwell in the third round next year, so that almost washes away the 3rd rounder we are sending in the deal. We cut Torrey and free up $5M to add to our '18 cap.

After the 2018 season, Addison is the only DE worth a sh*t on this roster, and he will be a ripe 32 at the start of the season. We are sitting at $27M in cap space and still need a SAF and probably OLB but, landing Clowney would eliminate a huge need that has been hovering over this franchise for many a year. Bringing the Rock Hill native and ex-Gamecock back to the Carolinas would be huge for him too, IMO.

Crazy pipe dream?  Nah, pass?  Hmmm.....potentially doable?

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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Trade a 1st and 3rd for someone you can get as a FA? Why do that?

I just have this feeling that our current roster of DEs are not going to cut the mustard for 16+ games, and would love to bring Clowney aboard for this season. It also avoids competition in FA battling other hungry teams. I'd prefer not to give up assets vs. signing someone, but sometimes you have to secure the asset to avoid a pissing match with other teams with more dinero. 

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