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My biggest issue with the 2018 team - the Front 4/Washington

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 We currently have more sacks than literally 1 team in the NFL.   We aren't getting to the QB.  Our defensive line hasn't played up to what our team expects/expected.  Washington isn't scheming up ways to get to the QB.  Instead we just watch the front four almost get to the QB as they manage to make play after play on us. 

The DL is the biggest issue we have IMO.  It IMO actually has been an issue slowly building.  Hidden by better/more experienced DCs.  Our front 4 can't get the job done.  .  

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I thought we did a pretty good job getting pressure starting in the second qtr.  Three sacks, including two by our defensive line,  and a few hurries.  That is why we held them to only field goals after the first flurry of points.  Also, there are actually 7 teams that have fewer sacks than we do, although that is not much better.

 

The more worrisome part is that most of our sacks have come in two games.  6 vs Dallas, 3 vs the Skins, 3 against the other teams that throw the ball more.  That has to improve for us to have even a ghost of a chance against the Aints or other pass happy teams.  

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Gotta blitz more.  Wilks blitzed too much, Washington not enough.  The difference this year being though, hopefully we now have two reliable corners to cover for the 2-3 seconds necessary in Bradberry and Jackson opposed to last year's mess of bad Bradberry and rotating players at CB2. 

Screw the zone.  If our CBs can't cover for 3 seconds while we bring 5 after the QB, doesn't matter.  Not to mention playing 5-10 yards off the WR allows short passes to pick us apart every...single...year. 

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Addison is gonna get cut next year if he doesn't step up. IIRC we save like $6 Million if we cut him next year.


ETA I just looked it up. We'd save $7.25 Mil. He GONE folks. Better start looking at first round DEs. I guess we're saving Haynes for next year? lol...

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3 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Rabble, rabble, rabble.

 

    As long as teams continue to get the ball out in under 3 seconds. We, and almost any team, will struggle to get home. Context people.

And that brings another issue up.  If other teams are able to get the ball out that fast against us then maybe we need to change up our scheme.

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I agree that the pass rush has been, at best, inconsistent this year.  However them only having more sacks than 1 team misleading due to the fact most teams haven't had their bye week yet.  We actually are 17th in Sack % - not great, but not that bad.  I thought we were getting good push against the Redskins - Smith just did a very good job getting the ball out and they had a good offensive game-plan coming in.  But they really didn't do much against us in the second half.  Nothing substantial anyway.

I could see our sack numbers getting a lot better over the next couple of weeks considering our opponents.  Eagles for example have not held up very well in protection this season.

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13 hours ago, Bronn said:

Addison is gonna get cut next year if he doesn't step up. IIRC we save like $6 Million if we cut him next year.


ETA I just looked it up. We'd save $7.25 Mil. He GONE folks. Better start looking at first round DEs. I guess we're saving Haynes for next year? lol...

Mario has been doing just fine. He and Poe have been dealing with the most double teams from what I have noticed. (I don't have numbers but it is something I pay attention to when I re-watch the games)

Kawann Short is the biggest issue with the line right now. He has been getting practically no push on the inside and he isn't even being double teamed. Qb's have been able to step up into a clean pocket against us far to often which is why our ends are having trouble getting to the QB. I am not even looking for Short to get sacks. He just needs to create any kind of pressure and help collapse the pocket. If our ends are getting boxed out and the QB tries to step up into the pocket Short should be in his face.

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20 hours ago, CRA said:

 We currently have more sacks than literally 1 team in the NFL.   We aren't getting to the QB.  Our defensive line hasn't played up to what our team expects/expected.  Washington isn't scheming up ways to get to the QB.  Instead we just watch the front four almost get to the QB as they manage to make play after play on us. 

The DL is the biggest issue we have IMO.  It IMO actually has been an issue slowly building.  Hidden by better/more experienced DCs.  Our front 4 can't get the job done.  .  

Sorry to point this out but we are 1 of 4 or 5 teams to have there bye so far.  So just number of sacks don't tell the story.  So far this team has had 3 games where they have gotten at least good pressure (Dallas, Skins, Cinny) and 2 with really no pressure ( NY, Falcons).  We actually did a really good job of pressuring Smith in the last game.  Washing seems to learn more toward McDermott's type of defense with a lot more zone blitz or just 4 down rushing as opposed to Wilks,  blitz every other play.  It theory it should lead to better coverage on the back end but it has not so far.

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I think it's ben pretty clear the front 4 aren't generating enough pressure.  We'll have a rotation during games with Horton and Addison on the outside that gets us virtually zilch.  Peppers can't go these days as a 3-Down lineman, Addison is a speed rusher, Horton isn't that great.  Obada is the closest thing but we are just average.  

More than anything else though, I'm just becoming tired of our defensive scheme.  Given Rivera is a defensive coach, this should be our top quality.  If we don't make a deep run, I say hit refresh.  Even in the case we go to the NFCCG.  

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