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Marty Hurney tried to trade up to get Greg Little as early as the No. 21 overall pick in the first round


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9 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Doesn't Matt Kalil essentially kill that as an argument? We can all agree that he is a great coach but not every player is capable or willing. You cannot turn 100% of the chickenshit into chicken salad. Some of it just stays chickenshit.

Dude reeally fell off. He's actually lucky he got another job.

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4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Nah, I think that would be panthers55....

Might seem like that around here with folks like you taking shots at him butthurt over what happened a decade ago. Truth is I was ready to ride him personally out of town last time. But being the forward fair thinking individual I am, I gave him a second chance. So far he has been largely good. So I call like I see it. Sure which others would stop living in the past and get aboard the train. Hopefully we ride all the way to Miami.

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It's so funny how quote un quote fans are on this board. Most are so quick to discuss negativities, particularly Mary Hurney as of late. How many GM's have never made mistakes? How many of you have never made mistakes on your job? I know I have. So what,  Hurney made some bad decisions In The Past! Let's at least credit him for the decisions he's made this far. I'm happy with where we are as a team and look forward to seeing us make a strong push this year. You guys/gals make it sound like we have the worst front office and coaching staff in the NFL. Can't we all just KEEP POUNDING!!!

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13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I would wager that is less than 1% probability. Hurney isn't an idiot. You will get laughed off the phone offering up dead salary weight and/or role players for pretty valuable draft capital. 

That alone, yes, but not what I said.  Here is the deal--what did we have to offer to move up to 21--a second and two thirds?  I doubt he would have paid that--so he might have offered a second, third, and someone like Smith.  $5m in salary is not dead salary weight for Smith--have you forgotten that he is a deep threat and our QB could not throw it 30 yards?   He has some value, and you can always eat part of the contract.  My point?  We probably offered a second and third and it got rejected--until it didn't. 

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5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

That alone, yes, but not what I said.  Here is the deal--what did we have to offer to move up to 21--a second and two thirds?  I doubt he would have paid that--so he might have offered a second, third, and someone like Smith.  $5m in salary is not dead salary weight for Smith--have you forgotten that he is a deep threat and our QB could not throw it 30 yards?   He has some value, and you can always eat part of the contract.  My point?  We probably offered a second and third and it got rejected--until it didn't. 

I am aware you weren't talking about using them alone to try and obtain those picks. My point is they are just as valueless packaged with picks as they are without. 

Smith has some value as a free agent but not much value in a trade. Frankly, probably no value. I mean, keep in mind we acquired him for a guy we were going to flat out cut. 

I think your scenario is the most likely, they had a package they pitched to multiple teams to see who would bite. It would be interesting to knoe if that package changed from 21 down to the second round.

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On 5/15/2019 at 6:45 PM, KDawg004 said:

I’m just content he has fought the urge to trade away a future 1st to move up. Wasn’t he trying to trade back into the 1st last year as well?

clearly he hasn't fought the urge. seems GM's felt sorry for him.

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