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8 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

The Giants receivers are depleted already. Kelvin showed he has great potential if not for himself. He is not Dwayne Jarrett guys. It's possible he could get signed and have an 800+ yard season. Dude is still young and if he's willing to work can get back to form. 

If he's willing to work. Lol The laugh of the day

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People need to look in the mirror when they are willing to kick someone when they’re down like some of the posters itt. Kelvin has been through a lot. Some of it is self inflicted but damn. Life ain’t always a clear cut trajectory. 

hope nothing but the best for him. He’s got a great opportunity with the giants and all their injuries at the wr position.

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Honestly feel like KB hasn't fully recovered emotionally from losing his mother. On top of that, I'm sure she provided a level of stability and accountability that he may not have anymore. Some people take years to bounce back. Unfortunately the NFL won't wait for him and he may miss an opportunity to secure his financial future in a relatively short period of time. 

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