A Lot of Talk About LT ... Are You All Just Dismissing Greg Little?

[shaq]

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You dont think 2 concussions is a valid argument given that our HOF linebacker just literally retired because of them?  Am I reading that right?

He really only had one concussion, his second appearance on the injury report was due to just residual issues with his previous concussion. Football is a dangerous sport any player can get hurt at anytime, but come on now the concussion rate for a olineman compared to a linebacker is incomparable. It’s been one season all I’m saying is give him a chance before you draft another young LT prospect early in the draft.

[pantherclaw]

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You dont think 2 concussions is a valid argument given that our HOF linebacker just literally retired because of them?  Am I reading that right?

Then why hasn't the team just cut ways with him, and moved on?

Anyways, the player is still developing,  and the team is still going to see how he develops. I'm sure they are not relying on him as the only option. 

"fug that, the man is dead!! Bad rookie year, he's dead!"

Yeah. I'm hearing that lame argument.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, shaq said:

He really only had one concussion, his second appearance on the injury report was due to just residual issues with his previous concussion.

Actually, Ron Rivera confirmed that it was two separate concussions.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Then why hasn't the team just cut ways with him, and moved on?

Anyways, the player is still developing,  and the team is still going to see how he develops. I'm sure they are not relying on him as the only option. 

"fug that, the man is dead!! Bad rookie year, he's dead!"

Yeah. I'm hearing that lame argument.

from my earlier post:

Nobody is condemning him for it, just saying its an asinine strategy going into 2020 with him penciled in as a starter with no fall back option.

 

Nobody is saying cut him that its jsut a crazy strategy to be putting all your eggs in the greg little basket

[SetfreexX]

The whole point is to let Little develop with a veteran presence as the fall back...

A lot of these posts are COMPLETELY dismissing the glaring holes on the defensive side of the roster, and again I'm not condemning a pick of LT at #7, i just think it's not the smart play when you look at fielding a 53 man roster, we have no DL depth AT ALL. 

The two guys returning were both IR'ed, and we were historically bad vs the run, I don't recall in historical badness on the OL, it was just injury riddled, you have to balance out high draft pick allocation, and right now the OL is in better shape. Anthony Costanzo in IND was considered avg or worse, then they added Nelson an OG, and that OL started to come together. 

Protecting the QB is not just on the LT....

THERE HAS TO BE A POCKET TO STEP UP INTO....

That is what allows the T's left and right to carry the DE / OLB on the arc, we haven't had a solid interior OL since 2015, we finally invested a high, hell even multiple picks to trade up for who we thought our answer was at LT. (Just go back and watch the Coach / GM pressers)

Interior OL is a much larger need, fortunately you can get starting quality interior OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Veteran T backup, add a Day 2 prospect at LG, and take Brown, or SImmons at #7.

[Glitchh]

The team needs a DT and LB much worse than a LT, period! Give Little a chance to play an entire season before pining for a LT. If he spends most of the time injured again then a new LT is inorder, patience nerds.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Glitchh said:

If he spends most of the time injured again then a new LT is inorder, 

And a new quarterback probably will be too.

[SmokinwithWilly]

I just hope we dont swing for the fences again and trade up giving picks when we barely have enough to create a lineup on both sides of the ball.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Another thing to think about is this is Cams final year under contract. We need to give him the best opportunity to see what he has. Dropping a 5yr/175m contract without seeing his full range of abilities will cripple this franchise a lot more than not taking Brown, Simmons, Okudah or Kinlaw.

If the coaches dont feel Little, Daley, Moton give us the best chance to succeed, draft a LT and dont think twice about it.

[cookinbrak]

First play of the season- " Wow, Cam Newton with a frozen rope for 23 yards to Samuel!"

Third play-" Cam's down..."

[JawnyBlaze]

Not discounting but with his injury history we absolutely can’t rely on him. I’d much rather get a reliable stud LT and let Little be depth or move him to another position. 

[mc52beast]

I would expect someone like Hurney to trust Little to be his starting LT going into 2020.

[davos]

There's a decent amount of talent beyond Thomas/Bechton/Wirfs/Wills.  Just looking at past drafts, you get guys like Peters, Bahktiari, Peters, Donovan Smith, Charles Leno, Dion Dawkins (Fave recent example) all beyond the first.  Some of the best in the league. 

I understand why but also don't see why so many are so antsy at 1st round or bust with the OL.  Moton was a fine pickup where we got him, same with Kalil.  And honest, so was Dawkins value wise.  Let's target 2 OLs in this draft but it doesn't need to be a pigeon-holed RD1 selection if it's not BPA. 

Mid Round OTs that have LT potential (In my order of faves):

1. Lucas Niang

2. Ben Bartch

3. Hakeem Adeniji

4. Ezra Cleveland

5. Prince Tega-Wanogho

6. Matthew Peart

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Any one of these guys could give Little, Daley and/or Moton a run for their money.  DOesn't need to just be the first round. 

Love me the top-4 centers as well.  Maybe take a guard late.  Let's get it. 

[Peon Awesome]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Another thing to think about is this is Cams final year under contract. We need to give him the best opportunity to see what he has. Dropping a 5yr/175m contract without seeing his full range of abilities will cripple this franchise a lot more than not taking Brown, Simmons, Okudah or Kinlaw.

If the coaches dont feel Little, Daley, Moton give us the best chance to succeed, draft a LT and dont think twice about it.

In what world is Cam getting a 5 year $175 million contract? If he somehow plays this year at a level to deserve that contract without us investing in the offensive line, then the man must deserve it. I'm sorry but I don't think you're making the point you're trying to make and if you are, then you're not communicating it well.