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Official Bucs at Panthers Gameday Thread


Jeremy Igo

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5 minutes ago, beo said:

I don't disagree, I was just making a joke at how awful the defense has been. Even if Teddy was possessed by Brett Favre and came out throwing missiles we would've lost allowing that many points.

They were on the field too much--Whitehead, Boston, Pride---terrible.  You can't stop 11 with 8.

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2 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

People saying Teddy isn’t the biggest problem. Yes he isn’t, but he isn’t winning us games either. He is a starter, but he hasn’t in anyway shown himself to be a franchise QB. If you’re cool with a Kirk Cousins level, fine. I’m not.

We knew this defense was going to be awful this year. People acting like the worst scoring D from week 2-17 last year losing Luke, Bradberry and others and adding very green starters wasn’t going to be bad have short memories. The offense was supposed to be amazing. Teddy is just OK, that’s it. He keeps his completion percentage up going short 95% of the time. We had a kick return to the 1 and a fumble recovery almost in the red zone that gave us 14 points. Other than that we were anemic.

He’s a placeholder. That’s it. We need another franchise QB to get us going in the right direction.

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1 hour ago, kass said:

The argument I started with was that he only had 2 passing td this season, directed to another user who talked about what Cam could do in this offense.

His completion percentage shows his arm is still attached to his body so he should have more than 2 even with a worthless wr core.. even bad QB get that. And all this I have already written here.

But then you jumped in just to say that Cam sucks a$$ and argue about irrelevant things.

 

Hah I think I misunderstood your entire point. I wasn’t privy to your previous conversation and comments. I wasn’t talking about Cam, I was talking about Teddy. It irks me when people try to use completion percentage as an indicator of either good or bad QB play. Cam was really good at throwing the football, despite a low %, because the system asked him to make low percentage throws and he had trash for WRs for most of his career. And he was great at it. When we went to more dink and dunk, his % skyrocketed of course. Teddy is really bad at throwing a football, but his % is high because he is t asked to make difficult throws and his WRs are really good. Looks like I was misunderstanding cuz I only caught that one comment. My bad. 

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7 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Hah I think I misunderstood your entire point. I wasn’t privy to your previous conversation and comments. I wasn’t talking about Cam, I was talking about Teddy. It irks me when people try to use completion percentage as an indicator of either good or bad QB play. Cam was really good at throwing the football, despite a low %, because the system asked him to make low percentage throws and he had trash for WRs for most of his career. And he was great at it. When we went to more dink and dunk, his % skyrocketed of course. Teddy is really bad at throwing a football, but his % is high because he is t asked to make difficult throws and his WRs are really good. Looks like I was misunderstanding cuz I only caught that one comment. My bad. 

It's fine :)It is not really possible to have a meaningful discussion in this kind of thread.

Reading your post, I think we actually agree a lot. Most of what you wrote could have been me saying the exact same thing using the same argument. 

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