Projected cap space if cap stays at $195 mill for 2021.

[jfra78]

27 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

@stbugs looking forward to toward your reply here.

Dude lives in the past not the future.  His response will be about how we could have had more space if we had cut KK and not signed Teddy.

[bababoey]

1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

June 1st Drew Brees and Cameron Jordan

Cut Janoris Jenkins, Kwon Alexander, and Nick Easton.

Extend Ramccyk and Lattimore so that their cap hit goes to $5m next year.

Done

And if need be I can restructure some other guys and find another $20m easily.

New Orleans Saints Salary Cap Calculator | Over The Cap

People act like Loomis is some genius but its really not that hard. 

So basically they let some of their older guys go, resign some of their young cornerstones, and then in 2022 the are back to decent cap space.  I'm sure they planned for the first year without Brees to be a reset year anyway.

 

 

 

Didn't they just trade for Alexander?  I think is was like a 5th and a player.  So they traded 2021 6th to piss off the Panthers and they cut the guy and traded their 2021 5th and cut the guy and people come on here a yell and scream about Hurney?  

Yeah Lomis is a genius I guess.

[CanadianCat]

49 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Says the guy that is not an NFL GM either.

 

haha I know.. Im being mostly facetious but its 'not really that easy' either'. If it was, every team would do it. 

[BrianS]

32 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

This is some positive news in this sea of negativity.

I dunno if being in the bottom half of the league in terms of cap space is a positive with the number of free agents we have and the overall talent level.  The only real potential "big" cut we have is KK, and that only gets us 10 mil or so.  

[AU-panther]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So, you completely gut your roster. Yeah, they can get under the cap but what are they going to be left with as a roster?

Their young talent, they will have cap tied up in CBs and LTs while we are paying RBs and LBs.

They will clear out the old contracts, sign the young guys (they have drafted well recently), and rebuild.  Next year might be a down year, but after that their situation isn’t too bad and at the end of the day how good they will be will be determined by who is playing QB.

4 hours ago, t96 said:

Jordan and Brees are arguably their most important players so it's not that easy if they want to compete next year.

I didn’t say anything about competing, and there are ways of doing it while keeping Jordan also.

Brees is going to retire at some point, why not reset your roster then.

[panfanman]

This is only half the league.  Where does Tampa Bay and the rest of the teams sit?

[TLGPanthersFan]

We would easily have the money to resign Moton and possibly Samuel if we hadn’t overpayed a mediocre QB. 
We are gonna most likely lose two of our best players because of Rhule and Brady’s hard on for Mr. 5-0. 

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

Their young talent, they will have cap tied up in CBs and LTs while we are paying RBs and LBs.

They gave Kamara a pretty comparable contract to what we gave McCaffrey lol.  They just gave a pretty big contract to Demario Davis too, albeit not an insignificant amount less than what we gave Shaq.  I don't think your characterization is very accurate.

[bababoey]

2 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Their young talent, they will have cap tied up in CBs and LTs while we are paying RBs and LBs.

They will clear out the old contracts, sign the young guys (they have drafted well recently), and rebuild.  Next year might be a down year, but after that their situation isn’t too bad and at the end of the day how good they will be will be determined by who is playing QB.

I didn’t say anything about competing, and there are ways of doing it while keeping Jordan also.

Brees is going to retire at some point, why not reset your roster then.

Here is what you don't get about the cap.  The team has to be under the cap on the first day of the new year of the 2021 season.  Sometime in March. 

When you designate a player as a June 1st cut their money does not come off the cap number until June 1st.  You can cut this guy and that guy and designate them as June 1st cuts but you carry the money they would normally count against the cap until June 1st. 

So how you going to get under the cap in March?

[Jared Patterson]

Sign: Marcus Williams, or Marcus Maye, or Anthony Harris

Sign: Leonard Williams or Dalvin Tomlinson (Whichever one the Giants let walk) 

 

[stbugs]

9 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Dude lives in the past not the future.  His response will be about how we could have had more space if we had cut KK and not signed Teddy.

Wah, wah, wah. Geez man, live your own life. You enjoying 4-8 knowing we have less than $5M in room to roll over?

By the way, feel free to tell me if I was wrong. Was it worth it spending $70M in cap space this year on Teddy, Short, Okung, Weatherly, Apple and Roberts? You happier we don’t have an extra 3rd and 5th round picks to throw at more IOL next draft?

Tell me I was wrong on any of the things I disagreed with what we did this off-season. Please do tell otherwise stop bitching and moaning.

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 hours ago, bababoey said:

Didn't they just trade for Alexander?  I think is was like a 5th and a player.  So they traded 2021 6th to piss off the Panthers and they cut the guy and traded their 2021 5th and cut the guy and people come on here a yell and scream about Hurney?  

Yeah Lomis is a genius I guess.

He puts together rosters that win. Like him or hate him he has as many winning seasons the past 3 years as Hurney has his entire career. 

 

[stbugs]

10 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

@stbugs looking forward to toward your reply here.

If you are being sarcastic oh well, but I’ll give you my real thoughts. I’d still be looking longer term like I wanted this off-season. I wouldn’t change that approach due to cap rollover. I assume that if they are easing into the salary cap drop then 2022/2023 might go up less than they would have. That means the net total cap for 2021-2023 is unchanged and we shouldn’t be scraping the ceiling in 2021. I’d finally get rid of Short, get rid Weatherly and if we draft a QB we love we could conceivably dump Teddy. That’s another $16.5 to $24.5M cap saved that could rollover to 2022 or go to extensions. It’s up to the coaches on Teddy. Little would save us $1.5M next year. Boston doesn’t get us anything in 2021, but he’d be $5M in savings in 2022. Shaq is an enigma in that he could save us cap but we have no one to replace him. That’s it for big changes. Now you have $36M in 2021 cap space (maybe $41M with the $5M that would roll over). Add in another $19M for the cap at $195M and you have about $60M in space. I’d franchise Moton and extend him. My top priority. If Curtis is $6-7M a year, I extend him. DJ can wait until after 2021 because with the 5th year option and a franchise tag he’d cost $27M in 2022 and 2023, fairly reasonable even without a long term extension which would help with cap savings in 2022/2023. 2022, year two of rookie QB is when I’d want to start to contend so I’d try to rollover $30M of the $60M in 2021 space by backloading Moton.

Oh and yes, I’d love to have $100M rollover cap going into 2022 to make some splashes when we are hopefully competing after two more decent drafts and keeping our good young players, but it’s gone so we do what we can.

Note that I am only listing real cap savings, i.e. “new” salary and roster/workout bonuses that wouldn’t get paid out and thus save cap space. Dead cap is meaningless because it is already paid out like signing bonuses and it’s only a matter of what year they hit the cap and with rollover it’s a non issue.

[RumHam]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Right. They can part ways with Brees and STILL be $50M over. They're in a real pickle.

the league lets them get away with it if you haven't figured that out yet