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Washington Football Team finalizing deal with Marty Hurney

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We have to stop giving Hurney credit for his 1st-round picks.  Yes, it was nice to not have to worry about drafting a bust.  But a big reason for that is because Hurney always went with the high-floor player in the 1st.  The only time he took a prospect that would have required NFL-level scouting and could be deemed a risk was Cam Newton.  Otherwise, there is a reason we drafted RBs and LBs in the 1st round often under him.  Easily the positions where it is easiest for young players to transition into the NFL immediately.  I mean look at Kuechly.  Anyone who saw him play knew that worst-case scenario, he was going to be a solid starter.

And I think Hurney's track record after the 1st round proves this.  He's not good at evaluating talent.  He's just good at taking the safe route in the 1st.

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2 minutes ago, Ready 2 Win said:

Hurney isnt the talent scout and drafts who the people that work for him tell are a good fit. 

The unfortunate thing there is that he was also the guy who hired the scouts that evaluated the prospects.

Marty had zero experience as a scout or talent evaluator before he was elevated to a job where you really really need to have those skills.

Richardson making him GM was like taking a kid that worked in the mailroom and making him CEO of a major corporation.

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Just now, stbugs said:

Every OC/DC hire seemed to be from within and we noticed that the talent and coaching prowess seemed to go down every time. A new GM that might tell Dan that Ron isn’t the right guy is a threat. It might even be subconscious but even the Norv higher was someone who had 0 interest in being a HC again.

It’s just a guess but based on this news, Ron absolutely goes with safe hires he knows and is happy to promote from within. Sometimes that’s OK but he clearly never went with a hot commodity especially since he was on the hot seat the last couple years.

What's funny about that is that making those safe choices helped cost him his job here, and very easily could there too.

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20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Missing on literally everything else other than 1st round picks clearly sets us back for years too.

He had some other hits. Not a ton and overall his drafting was definitely below average, even with the 1st round hits. But drafting wasn't his main weakness, it was choosing who to pay and when to pay and how much to pay. He was an absolute pushover in that aspect and that's what set us back much further than his drafting.

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Just now, t96 said:

He had some other hits. 

That was his problem in the draft. Everything was hit or miss. We couldn't build an overall roster because there was no roster filler available. Those good backup types and serviceable starter types that other teams typically find in the mid to late rounds. He always swung for the fences and when you do that you're going to strike out and hit a lot more pop flies than home runs.

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6 minutes ago, davos said:

One playoff appearance, one winning season together in 6 years right? Go get 'em WFT!

Ron Rivera, Marty Hurney, Taylor Heinicke...good luck Washington.

I’d take heinicke over our backups

maybe Marty will take Grier in a trade for a third

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I had read on Twitter, many times (even before Hurney was fired), that him joining Ron in Washington was a good possibility, but a part of me didn't really believe it.

It is mind blowing to me that Ron would look at the past three years and say "yeah, I want to recreate that."

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