Stafford didn’t want to come to the Panthers

[BurnNChinn]

44 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

The 8 alone was too much for Stafford. 

The report also said SF and Indy both balked at including this year's FRP. So two very competent front offices were not willing to part with the 12th nor the 21st picks, respectively..... 

But we were willing to give up the 8th AND another asset beyond that. Scary.

I really hope Rhule and Fitterer can reel in Tepper, as this seems like a Tepper "I want what I want and I don't care about pricetags" kind of move.

Yay let’s go with Teddy again, I’m glad a lot of you like to keep watching the Panthers be mediocre or suck every year. 

[SizzleBuzz]

34 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Fritters not looking very good so far. This would have been a massive fail for us. I don't have an issue with exploring options but the #8 for Stafford with our roster issues is concerning approach to roster building. 

 

I thought Rhule was in charge?

[Sgt Schultz]

Stafford is going to be 33 on Sunday.  Why would he want to go to a team that is in the middle of a rebuild rather than one who was in the Super Bowl with a lot of its current roster, has a defense that can take over games, and is maybe a healthy QB away from being able to make a deep push NOW?

Who can blame anybody who is on the back end of their career, been in an organization associated with futility, and wants to win or chase a championship not wanting to go to a team who is rebuilding.....even if he thinks the rebuild is heading in the right direction? 

[bigdavis]

23 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There comes a point where the money is just a way to keep score. More of it isn't going to do anything to change your lifestyle. Personally, I wouldn't want anything to do with L.A. but depending on your preferences it's very easy to understand why someone would choose L.A. over Charlotte. They're very different places and honestly, after living in CO for 14 years and coming back to NC this past summer, the weather here fuging sucks. Hot as balls with sky high humidity all summer and way too many gloomy days in the winter. People who race about Charlotte weather haven't lived somewhere with actual good weather. Yeah, it's better than Buffalo, but there's a lot of other places with a lot better weather.

Agree with what you say about the money as a score counter, but what's all this talk about the weather??

Why assume that was a determining factor?  If a previous poster was correct that Stafford's wife preferred L.A., mightn't it have been for the night life, club scene, even restaurants (assuming they ever open up)?  Or maybe family?

I doubt annual rainfall, or temperature gradients, had anything to do with it.

In any case, whew that we dodged that deal.

If Stafford, at  his age, and minor accomplishments, earned that level of interest from us, then I expect us to be VERY aggressively going after Watson -- whose train I will very happily board.

[Waldo]

9 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

I thought Rhule was in charge?

Yes Rhule is the HC and all signs point to him having control to some degree. He still has people working under him that can be analyzed.

[KidSmitty89]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's PFT.

Albert Breer has a whole lot more detailed report of what went on behind the scenes. He confirmed that Stafford to Carolina was about to happen until the Rams beefed up their offer.

 

I like Stafford but not for 2 1st rounders

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Yes Rhule is the HC and all signs point to him having control to some degree. He still has people working under him that can be analyzed.

Rhule officially has final say on the roster but has said that he isn't interested in that.

He's not gonna be taking part in the personnel acquisition process outside of talking to Scott Fitterer about what they want.

[Moo Daeng]

In the end it really doesn't matter what Stafford preferred. If we had offered more picks then he'd be a Panther. I'm glad we didn't. 

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rhule officially has final say on the roster but has said that he isn't interested in that.

He's not gonna be taking part in the personnel acquisition process outside of talking to Scott Fitterer about what they want.

That was what I understood, I am just waiting for actual confirmation through actions. My response was more tuned to the other poster that doesn't understand you can evaluate more than just the guy in charge.

[SizzleBuzz]

24 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Yes Rhule is the HC and all signs point to him having control to some degree. He still has people working under him that can be analyzed.

Does Fitterer report to Rhule?

[4Corners]

The feeling is mutual aside from the donkey brains management of the team 

[top dawg]

I told y'all a couple of times that he wasn't coming to a rebuilding team. Stafford coming to Carolina was never realistic. 

Fitterer is a man of his word though; we will stick our nose in every deal.

 

[Soul Rebel]

1 hour ago, BurnNChinn said:

Yay let’s go with Teddy again, I’m glad a lot of you like to keep watching the Panthers be mediocre or suck every year. 

Please elaborate then on how giving up the #8 overall pick + another asset (draft pick or player) for a 33-year old, non-mobile, banged up QB makes us a long-term contender.

My comment was on overpaying for Stafford, which, if we would've given what was reported...would have been an extreme overpay. 

If you want to debate that, then your knowledge of how front offices and teams are built is below a Madden Franchise Mode-level of understanding. 

[kungfoodude]

57 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Stafford is going to be 33 on Sunday.  Why would he want to go to a team that is in the middle of a rebuild rather than one who was in the Super Bowl with a lot of its current roster, has a defense that can take over games, and is maybe a healthy QB away from being able to make a deep push NOW?

Who can blame anybody who is on the back end of their career, been in an organization associated with futility, and wants to win or chase a championship not wanting to go to a team who is rebuilding.....even if he thinks the rebuild is heading in the right direction? 

Is Russell Wilson on the back end of his career?