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Year Two, or Year One?

Mr. Scot

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Talking about his release, Tre Boston says he was told by the Panthers that it's "rebuilding time".

While that seems like an obvious statement, I still find it kind of interesting that they framed it to him this way. And it brings up a question in my mind.

Matt Rhule is in his second year as head coach, but year one happened with Marty Hurney as GM. Reports said that Marty believed the team could win now rather than just rebuild, which possibly may have led to some of the reported clash between Marty and Rhule.

So with a new GM that shares Rhule's vision now in place, would it be more correct to consider this season year two of the rebuild, or is it really year one?

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He will be missed, a lot of people want to tarnish what he brought every Sunday with missed tackles. However, you can't deny he made it fun to watch the Panthers with the energy he brought and being very interactive with us via all social media whether it be football or just something as simple as asking who wants to go play a round of golf. We will miss you Tre and hope nothing but great things in your future.

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17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Talking about his release, Tre Boston says he was told by the Panthers that it's "rebuilding time".

While that seems like an obvious statement, I still find it kind of interesting that they framed it to him this way. And it brings up a question in my mind.

Matt Rhule is in his second year as head coach, but year one happened with Marty Hurney as GM. Reports said that Marty believed the team could win now rather than just rebuild, which possibly may have led to some of the reported clash between Marty and Rhule.

So with a new GM that shares Rhule's vision now in place, would it be more correct to consider this season year two of the rebuild, or is it really year one?

 

most of us  hoped for the 3 year plan, but Matt said it would be a 5 year plan.  So here we go.

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Still year 2.  I think they probably just said that to Tre to not make themselves look like dicks and straight up tell him that he's being let go because he's not good.  It's not you, it's us...you don't suck, we just need to rebuild.

What I find more interesting is him saying that he'll be back some way shape or form.  Maybe he wants to get into coaching at some point.

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18 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

most of us  hoped for the 3 year plan, but Matt said it would be a 5 year plan.  So here we go.

A good number of people on here called last year a half-assed effort at rebuilding and complained that we didn't go all in.

Did they have a point?

One thing I'd say is if Rhule and Fitterer really do see this as rebuilding time, that would make the answer to the question of whether Tepper was transitioning from "patience" to "win now" a no.

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Hard to say. There's an argument for both. I'd think that the rebuild began peripherally when Rhule was hired. Now with this next free agency and draft, we'll get further into the guts of the rebuild, and then start finishing it off by next offseason, with a working system in full effect by 2023/2024

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14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A good number of people on here called last year a half-assed effort at rebuilding and complained that we didn't go all in.

Did they have a point?

Yep.

As soon as we signed Teddy, we shot ourselves in the foot by increasing our floor yet having a ceiling of 3rd place staring us down. This should've been torn down, clear the cap, and load up on picks where we could.  There was zero reason to "compete" this year, with so many unknowns, a ton of dead cap, and so many changes. It was time to gain assets and rebuild the "right" way. We failed.  

Now?  We're staring down the barrel of trading the farm for a QB, or stuck in a no-man's land of mediocrity where we'll probably....have to trade up for a QB at some point. And then pray he's the answer.  Our 2020 decisions led this team to slim options, and both require probably trading a ton of capital to answer our QB question. 

Go back in time, tear this thing down, don't sign Teddy.  We're looking at drafting Lawrence or Wilson without a trade up right now, or an easier trade for Watson.  Instead, we're fighting about how many 1st rounders and our future we have to give up.  Hope those couple extra wins and early dreams of Teddy being legit were worth it. 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Talking about his release, Tre Boston says he was told by the Panthers that it's "rebuilding time".

While that seems like an obvious statement, I still find it kind of interesting that they framed it to him this way. And it brings up a question in my mind.

Matt Rhule is in his second year as head coach, but year one happened with Marty Hurney as GM. Reports said that Marty believed the team could win now rather than just rebuild, which possibly may have led to some of the reported clash between Marty and Rhule.

So with a new GM that shares Rhule's vision now in place, would it be more correct to consider this season year two of the rebuild, or is it really year one?

This is good to hear continuing to rebuilt is absolutely the right decision. 

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