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How much of this was just wanting to get rid of bridgewater?


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TB IMO set up his own exit after the MIN game and blaming a call coming in late as the reason he missed a wide open receiver directly in front of his face. 

Then trying to dive over the pile in GB only to fumble, and the 4th and 9 in the final moments of a game where he just checks it down to a 2 yard drag. 

There's several examples, IMO they bought into the Saints hype, he looked better on a better team, I dunno who was responsible for the money, but if you're paying a guy that much they need to at times be the reason you win; especially at QB. 

He's a game manager with below avg arm talent -- Darnold has the potential to be more with + arm talent, this is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it's viewed as the answer long term either. 

 

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Not winning in the NFL is a lot worse than not winning at Baylor. The desperation reeks and it was an eerily similar move to the Cam & Teddy debacle last year. We overpaid in draft capital this year vs overpaying in cap last year. Both are long shot guys who have enough film in the NFL to raise legitimate and loud concerns. Both look to end with us getting no value from the outgoing QB and there still is not a good option to start on the roster yet. Neither was particularly handled well either. 

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There isn’t a lot of risk in trading for Sam. His upside is 1000 times higher than Teddys was with us. At the most we lose a second next season, but depending on how the season plays out, it might be closer to a third. 
 

To me it’s a win/win with what we were working with. We all would have loved to be drafting at 3 to grab Fields, but that ship sailed, and we made the best situation out of a tough season. If Sam doesn’t get better, we move along next season and only lost a second. If he does work out, we got a franchise QB for virtually nothing in comparison to what others are giving up. 
 

A very young defense has a year under its belt, upgrade CB and OL in the draft, and CMC is completely healthy. Let’s see what happens. 

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Curious move at best. Excited for the draft still to see how things shake out. Wonder at what point they do straight up cut teddy, do we get any relief this year if that's the route? Highly doubt we can even move him unless they do some voodoo with his contract beforehand.

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2 hours ago, hepcat said:

The burned the Teddy "bridge" when they were going to trade him to Detroit for Stafford. There was no coming back from that

That bridge was burnt when the guy writing the pay checks came out and trashed Teddy..  

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Given Rhule's talk of winning culture I assume they'd look to unseat a player who had failed so notably for nearly an entire season. No surprise if he felt they had to do 'something' even if we pretend the comments didn't happen.

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59 minutes ago, WOW!! said:
3 hours ago, hepcat said:

The burned the Teddy "bridge" when they were going to trade him to Detroit for Stafford. There was no coming back from that

That bridge was burnt when the guy writing the pay checks came out and trashed Teddy..  

Teddy doesn't care.

Teddy's a big-boy playing in a big-boy league and what you are referencing literally amounts to nothing as compared to adversity he has faced in the past.

Teddy is the Consumate Professional...

...true pro's don't let "hurt feelings" stand between them and fulfilling the terms of their contract.

As long as the checks clear Teddy gives zero f***s about what the guy writing them says...

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Just now, SizzleBuzz said:

Teddy doesn't care.

Teddy's a big-boy playing in a big-boy league and what you are referencing literally amounts to nothing as compared to adversity he has faced in the past.

Teddy is the Consumate Professional...

...true pro's don't let "hurt feelings" stand between them and fulfilling the terms of their contract.

As long as the check's clear Teddy gives zero f***s about what the guy writing them says...

If Teddy was such a big boy he wouldn't have done the little girl move of changing his social media.. Making a scene out of him not following the team anymore... And he would be with Will Grier trying to get better with his weapons...  He has gone ghost pretty much this whole offseason.. Just because you're paying a player doesn't mean they will give you their best effort..

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5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

If Teddy was such a big boy he wouldn't have done the little girl move of changing his social media.. Making a scene out of him not following the team anymore... And he would be with Will Grier trying to get better with his weapons...  He has gone ghost pretty much this whole offseason.. Just because you're paying a player doesn't mean they will give you their best effort..

Hahahahahaha!!!!!

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