Panthers moving Chinn to safety. Thoughts?

[DamnItJake!]

Knock the crap out of people and be the Field General like Kuechely!! Put him where u want!!I forgot to say with Horn this could be an ugly defense!! Hard hitting 

Edited June 3, 2021 by DamnItJake!

[rayzor]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, this staff seems to not really differentiate.

Same thing with Fox and Rivera and a lot of teams. Even ones that do differentiate between the two will cross-train and prepare the two. 

Responsibilities all boil down to about the same during the game anyways depending on the offensive attack. Cover center field and watch the run. Both guys need to be good in coverage and both need to be stout against the run.

Emergence of the spread offense has pushed safety in this direction even moreso.

[Rubi]

Drafting Horn makes Chinn that much better in the back of the defense. 
 

the secondary just evolved with the addition Horn + Chinn playing his natural position. 

 

the defense will have 4 blue chip pieces. Brown, Burns, Chinn, Horn 

you can def start to see the picture Rhule is painting now with what he had and what he’s building. 

[cookinbrak]

Y'all do remember Thomas Davis bouncing between LB and SS, right? He found his spot. Chinn will do the same.

[Call Me James]

25 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Y'all do remember Thomas Davis bouncing between LB and SS, right? He found his spot. Chinn will do the same.

Yup, that's what I was thinking too. He'll ultimately end up where he provides the most impact

 

[KillerKat]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't think they've specified that Chinn would be a strong safety.

I know Person said a while back that they were planning on trying Chinn at free safety.

FS doesn't make sense at all. LB/S hybrids usually play SS. You want him closer to the front 7 to be able to lay the wood and cover the TE underneath. Having him back peddle away, which will lessen his chances of doing that, doesn't seem like the right move. 

[PantherPhann89]

I believe it coaching staff is competent enough to use him in ways that benefits the team based off his skill sets and the defensive formation.

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

FS doesn't make sense at all. LB/S hybrids usually play SS. You want him closer to the front 7 to be able to lay the wood and cover the TE underneath. Having him back peddle away, which will lessen his chances of doing that, doesn't seem like the right move. 

I wouldn't worry about FS vs. SS. there's not a whole lot of difference between the two jobs and abilities anymore. Just think safety. Both guys back there will largely do the same job.

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, KillerKat said:

FS doesn't make sense at all. LB/S hybrids usually play SS. You want him closer to the front 7 to be able to lay the wood and cover the TE underneath. Having him back peddle away, which will lessen his chances of doing that, doesn't seem like the right move. 

Sure it makes sense. With big tall receivers who are tough to bring down you need a safety who is big, tall and fast as well. I hope he can be our version of Ed Reed in the secondary.  

[CPsinceDay1]

8 hours ago, stbugs said:

Wow, we’ll never get off the field. Burns and Gross as 3-4 DEs? I wouldn’t call anything but runs.

Who's at fault?

[CPF4LIFE]

If we are talking longevity, FS would be best role. A good front 7 would keep chinn fresh just like a D line does for linebackers. 

[panthers55]

For those who say Jackson is too small to play nickel slot, the two top ranked slot defenders by PFF were Kenny Moore who is  5'9" and 190 lbs. and Bryce Callahan is 5'9" and 188. Compare that with Jackson who is 5'10" and 180. He is surely big enough and fast enough. And if he isn't a good tackler I would rather have him miss a tackle closer to the line where he might have help rather than putting him on an island as an outside corner or at free safety where he is our last line of defense. The only reasonable place you play him if you start him at all is at nickel slot.

[iamhubby1]

17 hours ago, rayzor said:

Don't get too caught up in the delineation between FS and SS. Quite often there's very little difference between the two. It's essentially a meaningless designation. Responsibilities will be the same for both safeties.

 

IMO, if you want the ability to disguise your D, you need both your safeties to be versatile. So yeah, FS,SS, it doesn't matter.

[iamhubby1]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

First of all YGM, one of your 3-4 DEs got swallowed up at RDE in the 4-3 front. Second, what the heck does that run have to do with you trying to have a 3-4 front with Burns and YGM as the DEs?

If Burns and YGM are 3-4 DEs, our opponents won’t ever pass the ball. They will run all day on us and that video does nothing other than to prove that YGM needs work against the run as a 4-3 DE which is not the same as a 3-4 DE.

 

nvm

Edited June 4, 2021 by iamhubby1