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Cam Newton Released


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Maybe this thread will go on for longer than 100 pages, spanning years……this reminds me of the Vince Young thread on SurlyHorns, which was a mixed bag of making excuses for personal choice, and how he was treated unfairly, and that all Vince needed was a fair chance.  I thought it only happened on a player’s college boards.

I thought the Pats gig was doomed to fail from day one…..hard a$$ BB and a flamboyant player, rarely mix…..”JC” Brady was pretty much opposite in personality.  Hope Cam saved and invested his money, and tries the backup role till he outplays the starter.

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8 minutes ago, Ready 2 Win said:

What are they telling...they they feel a moderator jumping into a thread from a moderators position you judge posters and shame them for not feeling the same? Save that bull for the alt account.

Did you just beer yourself? Sad times….

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

And I told you all that Mac Jones was the real deal--and you laughed at me--nay, you scoffed.  You showed me pictures of his body and called him a system QB, but I stood firm.

Who is scoffing now?

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Agree!  I believed in Mac as well.  Many are still sleeping on Mac, and will refuse to see that he 100% outplayed Cam throughout the preseason. These two guys, just like their names are going in different directions. To people talking about the vaccine, this isn't a case of not getting a shot in the arm, its about the arm being shot. 

As for his future, he needs to accept a backup role where he can be used as a short yardage and goal line QB somewhere. 

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9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Studies are showing that antibodies are still being produced/viable in the body between seven and nine months later after infection. Those studies also show drop offs after that time, but I don't believe we've had enough time to unequivocally say when the immunities completely disappear. We just know they weaken over time and it's likely they are slightly less strong against variants.

That being said, I lost my first cousin yesterday morning to Covid. He was just a year older than me, but otherwise medically the same. He'd had his first dose of the vaccine but was three days shy of getting the second shot when he caught the virus. He spent three agonizing weeks in the hospital and his final three days intubated. He left behind a wife and two kids (both in their early 20s). He was the picture of health, happy and beloved. Now, he's gone.

Get your shots. It might be more than a football career you lose.

Sorry for your loss, complete tragedy.

I didn't know about immunity weakening over time. I know for the longest it was known in medical science that naturally occurring immunity was the best defense with the new science that may be changing. 

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9 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

There’s a lot more to it than that. If I remember correctly they didn’t want to keep Brady. There were a lot of tensions between Bill and Brady. Pats didn’t have the cap room or roster to build a great team like Tampa was able to build. Pats figured Brady was done and it was time to find his replacement, have a crappy year, draft a good qb and build another dynasty.  You can say that Brady was the reason behind the pats success not Bill and you would have a good argument. I don’t think the pats would have won as many super bowls, hell maybe not even one Super Bowl without Brady. However I do think Bill is good even if he cheats. It was his brilliant coaching that shut down opposing offenses and came up with schemes to beat the other team.

We won't know the truth behind what went down between Bill and Tom for some years. But what we do know is Brady went from a depleted at best roster to an absolutely stacked team in the Bucs who retooled on top of it and have added even more this year after their title run. Yes he's the goat but he is not making chicken salad out of chicken poo by any means.

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3 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

He was already walking a thin line, and that Covid incident, coupled with him not being vaccinated was just too much. 
 

He had Mac beat, but let him back in. I think it’s over, as far as him being a starter. 

I wonder if Cam has not become bigger than the game--and what he has left to offer it.  He was great, but I kinda hope he ends his career so people do not remember the older Cam, but the Superman, dabbing Cam.  Does that make any sense?

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