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This really says it all re: Sam Darnold

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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29 minutes ago, joemac said:

Doesnt really compute to me though if Sam is getting the ball out quicker than 2.5 seconds on most passing plays. 

According to their metric explanation this is accounted for.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24892208/creating-better-nfl-pass-blocking-pass-rushing-stats-analytics-explainer-faq-how-work

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1 hour ago, joemac said:

Yes, probably....but thats a big staple of our offense, so it is what it is.  The short pass/screen game has become a staple of many NFL offenses these days actually.  Simply because it is very difficult to defend if you've got the right guys.  And we definitely do have the right guys.  If I was Brady I would be screening teams to death until they showed they could stop it. 

How long have you been watching Panthers we have never been a good screen team don’t know why. Then the little screen that had hope the other day was called backed because our favorite oline guy Elf bear hugged the guy.

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57 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

How long have you been watching Panthers we have never been a good screen team don’t know why. Then the little screen that had hope the other day was called backed because our favorite oline guy Elf bear hugged the guy.

I've been watching the Panthers since 1995.  I have literally seen every single game they have played save for about 5.  We have the best receiving RB in maybe the history of the game.  It would be absurd to not feed him the ball in space.  Screens and dump-offs are a big part of this.  Also, we absolutely have been a very good screen team in the past.  The Smoke Screens to Smitty back in the day used to kill teams. 

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I've been watching the Panthers since 1995.  I have literally seen every single game they have played save for about 5.  We have the best receiving RB in maybe the history of the game.  It would be absurd to not feed him the ball in space.  Screens and dump-offs are a big part of this.  Also, we absolutely have been a very good screen team in the past.  The Smoke Screens to Smitty back in the day used to kill teams. 

Other than Smitty’s screens that’s all we’ve been good at. CMC gets dump offs but not many screens because oline sucks maybe one day.

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19 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Other than Smitty’s screens that’s all we’ve been good at. CMC gets dump offs but not many screens because oline sucks maybe one day.

Deangello and Stewart were good with it too.

Ryan Kalil was a great blocker in the screen game. Norwell and Turner were quality there too.

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2 hours ago, Manna said:

Keep screening until teams stop it. Kind of like what happened in 2013 when Luke and TD stopped the Saints in that rain game. If I recall correctly, the saints stopped screening so much after that game. 

Payton is the king of exploiting our biggest weakness. I remember when he kept throwing at Eric Reid over and over and over. 

We can do the same to them, hopefully.

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20 hours ago, unicar15 said:

I would say Joe Brady needs to figure out how to get the ball in the end zone with a top receiver, league MVP at running back, AND Darnold…then he may have his pick of jobs. 

Darnold missed two easy throws in the end zone last week and fumbled in the redzone with what rhule said was a walk in td. That’s 18 points left on the board. Then we wouldn’t be talking about red zone issues. I said the same thing last year with Teddy. He was awful in the red zone. Brady has some issues but I think they’re vastly overblown.

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