In support of Coach Rhule

[jayboogieman]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

It's year two so I will support him. Still what really concerns me the most though is our coordinators. I really wish he had gone with at least one experienced one. I think we will be looking for a new OC next year exactly because of that and that means learning a new system. 

You're probably right about the team looking for a new OC. This place would probably go bonkers, even more so than now, if the following quoted post happens.

2 hours ago, Mage said:

I think we have our guy in Sean Ryan.  Very well-respected around the league.  A lot of experience working with talented QBs and WRs.  Matt Stafford liked him a lot.  I'd be surprised if he isn't next-in-like for OC.

Ah. The Ron Rivera let's promote from within strategy to maintain consistency. We've seen how that movie before. It wasn't good either.

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

No team with a ton of talent loses 14 games in a row.

To be fair, this team hasn't lost 14 in a row either. At least not yet.

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

You don't just make Sam Darnold the plan. 

I think the backup plan for if Darnold fell off the cliff was to get a high pick and make a run for Howell. It had to be in their minds that the UNC homers would turn out in droves to support their guy.

[Mage]

15 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Ah. The Ron Rivera let's promote from within strategy to maintain consistency. We've seen how that movie before. It wasn't good either.

???

Plenty of teams promote within and do so to great success.  Rivera's issue wasn't necessarily promoting within, it was promoting people who clearly didn't deserve to be promoted.  Sean Ryan has a much stronger resume than Mike Shula had.  Ryan would have been a good OC hire at the time if we hadn't already nabbed Brady.

And for whatever it's worth, Sean Ryan has experience with two QBs we've targeted... Matt Stafford and now, Deshaun Watson.

[ThPantherFan]

2 hours ago, PanthersATL said:

these coaches were given a chance and it paid off for them.

I'm not ready to dump Rhule.  Yes the buck stops with him.  He will need to set some ass on fire soon if he hasn't already.  I'll give him one more year to prove himself.

[jayboogieman]

6 minutes ago, Mage said:

???

Plenty of teams promote within and do so to great success.  Rivera's issue wasn't necessarily promoting within, it was promoting people who clearly didn't deserve to be promoted.  Sean Ryan has a much stronger resume than Mike Shula had.  Ryan would have been a good OC hire at the time if we hadn't already nabbed Brady.

And for whatever it's worth, Sean Ryan has experience with two QBs we've targeted... Matt Stafford and now, Deshaun Watson.

I wouldn't say Ryan has a stronger resume than Shula by any means. At least Shula had prior experience as a HC(Alabama) and an OC before Rivera promoted him. Ryan's highest coaching job has been a QB coach for the powerhouses known as the Texans, Giants, Lions, and Panthers. Let's not forget his time coaching in the college ranks at the powerhouses of Harvard, Columbia, and Colgate.

If Ryan was worth taking a shot on as an OC, some team would have done so by now with the way the NFL is after the next young genius coach. Having experience with Stafford sure worked out well too, didn't it? The answer to that is no, it didn't since Stafford rejected the Panthers.

[onmyown]

Also chip kelly

[Jackie Lee]

 

[CanePantherHornet]

His press conference gave me a little more confidence. It seems like he knows exactly what the problem is (Brady) there just isn't much he can do about it other than outright firing him. If I had to guess, by the bye week, Brady is gone and Sean Ryan is interim OC.

[Leotiger]

Rhule is the coach we want. Give it a year or 2 more…  if then we ain’t progressing then tepper move on .. but he is barley in to year… greatness is right around the corner takes 3 years to build and get comfortable…. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, Scott12345 said:

Hard to argue this so I won’t 

The whole deal just sucks

we shouldn’t be as bad as we are

I agree, it's annoying. The issue is there's a reasonable concern we're making a big mistake: leaving the people who caused the problem in charge of fixing the problem. 

[PootieNunu]

1 hour ago, ThPantherFan said:

I'm not ready to dump Rhule.  Yes the buck stops with him.  He will need to set some ass on fire soon if he hasn't already.  I'll give him one more year to prove himself.

The years are already piling up, we did this same poo with Rivera and what did it get us? HoF talents wasted thats what. 

What if Rhule catches lightning in a bottle next year much like Rivera did when he was on the hotseat and goes back to poo the following year. Only to be on the hotseat again and catch more lightning and stick around another 4 years.

fug that. 

Either Rhule can can this college crap and get some NFL guys on his staff or we need a new coach. 

[ickmule]

4 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

lol  I like this one. "We don't have talent. But if that talent, that we don't have, quit on the coach, he needs to go."

 

No arguing that rebuttal.

 

If you can't look at this team, and see the amount of talent out there? That's a you  problem.

I've got a problem for sure....It's that I root for this lousy ass franchise. Thankfully since 2015 I care much less than I did. It's comical to me at this point. 

 

[Carl Spackler]

5 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

I think that if we had an OC with even a modicum of talent. We'd be competitive.

Who hired him?