Rapaport: Panthers/ Tepper out of Watson deal

[Mage]

4 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

But what about what @Verge and @DJ feed me moore said..

I mean, it's possible he gets traded by the deadline.  But I always felt like that was a stretch.

[Smittymoose]

1 minute ago, joemac said:

Hell, speaking of Cousins...he might be available this off-season.  I have always thought he was a really good QB, who just has never gotten the credit he deserves.  I'd take him as our long term QB in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't be mad about it, but he's not a long-term solution. Already 33-34. 

[PootieNunu]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It's a way to get it to mediocre, which is better than we are. Obviously, I understand the mixed feelings about that rather than just sucking hard and continuing to get high draft picks.

I dont think a mediocre QB will help us at all. We need a top 10 kind of guy to make this offense work with the few pieces we have or we need 5 or so rookies to develop into quality starters. 

Taking a QB in the first is going to have our OL in shambles again next year. 

[Panthercougar68]

Sometimes it’s ok to wait for a good class of QBs to avoid Christian Ponder and EJ Manuels of the world.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If we had good deals waiting for us, they would be on the table. That's what I mean, unless we are getting great offers from other front offices and turning them down. If so, they are getting vetoed somewhere and there isn't much we can do.

I think Rhule is safe even at 3-14. I believe he will jettison Brady and then the Rhule hot seat will be cranked to 11 in 2022. I also expect to see the FO and Rhule forced to take a QB in the draft.

I think we are about to enter into a very bad place for Rhule and I don't think Tepper has learned any lessons yet on how to be a good owner. It's set up for  complete implosion.

Your logic is sound, I just think the storm is beginning from here.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

 

If accurate, then Houston isn't budging.

This may drag into the 2022 season if so. Depends on how stubborn the Texans are and the result of the civil cases against Watson.

Eventually they are going to stop paying him and come after his money if they can't get a trade worked out. 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I think we are about to enter into a very bad place for Rhule and I don't think Tepper has learned any lessons yet on how to be a good owner. It's set up for  complete implosion.

Your logic is sound, I just think the storm is beginning from here.

Tepper is supposedly impulsive, so it may come down to whether someone can talk him off a ledge if he gets pissed and wants to can Rhule.

I will say that as much faith as I am losing in Rhule, I don't want us to get a reputation as being the team that has a crazy owner. That isn't going to allow us to hire good candidates in the future.

Edited October 27, 2021 by kungfoodude

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

There is essentially no chance Carolina has a top 5 pick this year. Not happening. 

5-12 would be damn close

[SmokinwithWilly]

10 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

But what about what @Verge and @DJ feed me moore said..

He still may be. We can control only what we can control. It's not like the deadline is in an hour. 

[PanthersGOATFan336]

I think they finally came to the realization that 3 1st is wayyy too much idk what all this

 

H3 dIDnT wANT to c0Me here talk is about

 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

I dont think a mediocre QB will help us at all. We need a top 10 kind of guy to make this offense work with the few pieces we have or we need 5 or so rookies to develop into quality starters. 

Taking a QB in the first is going to have our OL in shambles again next year. 

I mean a QB good enough to GET us to mediocre. That's slightly different.

It is why I said I wanted someone like Tyrod Taylor while we rebuild the OL. Just someone to be competent and take care of the ball. Then we can go get our QB in any draft we care to trade the farm to move up and get. IMO, this isn't that draft.

For me, I would rather get a 10 years starter on that OL.in the first than shoot for the moon on a high bust potential QB. Especially given my thoughts on this QB class.

[4Corners]

So it’s possible the deviant sex offender doesn’t want to play in  Charlotte? Even more reason to back away. 

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Rhule is supposedly impulsive, so it may come down to whether someone can talk him off a ledge if he gets pissed and wants to can Rhule.

I will say that as much faith as I am losing in Rhule, I don't want us to get a reputation as being the team that has a crazy owner. That isn't going to allow us to hire good candidates in the future.

I agree, I don't want Tepper to be crazy but at this point it's lining up to be a learning experience for him. It took Haslim more than a decade to offset his negative impacts.

I also see a very good chance that Rhule may run back to college anyways at the end of the year. The rest of this year is not going to be fun.

Rhule and staff are just not ready, they will probably succeed later from the experience in this failure.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, joemac said:

Hell, speaking of Cousins...he might be available this off-season.  I have always thought he was a really good QB, who just has never gotten the credit he deserves.  I'd take him as our long term QB in a heartbeat.

He is a good QB who is an insane choke artist. Sort of a poor man's Drew Brees.

He would probably excel in our offense.