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So this was or wasn’t a hospital ball by Darnold?
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You should. Marty Hurney has said in an interview that had Houston not been picking ahead of us, we would have drafted Carr over Peppers. And to be fair to Carr, he not only received weekly beatings behind Houston's poorly equipped offensive line, but on top of that also some absolute dog sh-t coaching from Chris Palmer and company that probably aided in derailing his career. Just one of several examples from that era where somebody else's screwup actually saved us from screwing up ourselves... -
Went back and looked at page 3. Pretty sure I found the post you were citing. My opinion: I think that post was trying to use hyperbole to make a couple of different points... One, yes there have been people grumbling over Bryce's stats in games we won. And in doing so ignoring that a lot of our early games relied on a very run heavy game plan. Honestly, not hard to find examples of that if you look back to the posts made around some of those arly victories. The Saints game forced us to go back to a more balanced attack, and we have indeed won games that way, including Young's career best game against Atlanta when that game unexpectedly became a shootout. Two, the size factor. Win or lose, good game or bad game, some folks are never gonna be happy with Bryce because of his stature. It's not so much that anyone expects Bryce to 'be Cam", but if you peruse this board during draft season you'll find loads of threads about prospects that "remind me of Cam" or "could be another Cam" or "might be Cam lite" or at the very least insisting that we'ill never win a Super Bowl unless we get a dual threat quarterback (a false, but somewhat widely held belief). That was a lot of the draw around Justin Fields, CJ Stroud (who I wanted, but not for that reason), Anthony Richardson and others. If you look back at threads touting those guys, it usually only takes only a few posts for someone to invoke Newton, even if the quarterback in question doesn't really resemble him much at all (Fields was a prime example). There are people who want Cam back (in spirit if not in body). if that's your ideal, having a guy like Bryce is anathema. But Cam isn't coming back, and as mentioned in the referenced post, guys like Cam don't grow on trees. So basically it's kinda futile to insist on that being the only path to glory. The overriding point in all this is unrealistic expectations. And yeah, we got 'em. We actually have something else that might be even worse though. Fear. Subtle feat, rationalized fear, but at heart still plain old fear. Why do I say that? Because the ridiculously illogical narrative that we somehow "win in spite of Bryce" is a fear based defense mechanism. Bryce can't ever be allowed to do anything good or receive any sort of credit for the Panthers winning games because to do so opens the door to the possibility that Bryce could end up being retained... ...and we simply can't have that 😕 Silly? Sure is, but I think we've all seen cases where people could rationalize just about anything if they're motivated enough. I'm not gonna go that route. I acknowledge every Bryce's skills, his progress, his growth, his "clutch gene" and any number of other good qualities he's demonstrated. And I still don't want to have to depend on him long term. And no, that isn't a contradiction. I have reasons.
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By PleaseCutStewart · Posted
Don't think it matters who would have won because I doubt we get a wild card. Theoretically, I think it's better the Lions won because the cowboys remaining schedule is very easy
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