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47 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm legit shocked there seems to be so much concern about essentially getting out coached and out schemed by Ron Rivera.

That's hilarious. If that happens that'll be the most massive red flag ever.

I mean, we lost to the Giants.  

Losing to Ron wouldn't be as bad as the Giants game.   

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

I mean, we lost to the Giants.  

Losing to Ron wouldn't be as bad as the Giants game.   

We lost to the Giants with Sam Darnold at QB. This is a different team now. The team lead by Sam Darnold was depressing, sad, garbage. The team lead by Cam is exciting, positive, fresh, and winners.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With Darnold at QB with a few games under his belt in the system for DCs to get a look at and no CMC, you're losing to virtually everyone - as we saw.

Its now glaringly evident that Sam was the main, gigantic problem on our offense.  Even the o-line looked like a real NFL line once Sam was out, and thats with a bum like Daley playing LT.  

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Just now, hepcat said:

We lost to the Giants with Sam Darnold at QB. This is a different team now. The team lead by Sam Darnold was depressing, sad, garbage. The team lead by Cam is exciting, positive, fresh, and winners.

well, that was still Matt Rhule's team.  He couldn't coach around Sam Darnold enough to beat a bad Giants team that was basically missing everyone. 

I still don't think losing to Ron would be as bad.  And Ron knows Cam Newton better than any coach in the NFL.   Matt Rhule IMO could put Cam in a bad spot.  You can't put Cam out there for 4 quarters running simple stuff, not having legit audbile ability, etc vs Ron Rivera. 

 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

well, that was still Matt Rhule's team.  He couldn't coach around Sam Darnold enough to beat a bad Giants team that was basically missing everyone. 

I still don't think losing to Ron would be as bad.  And Ron knows Cam Newton better than any coach in the NFL.   Matt Rhule IMO could put Cam in a bad spot.  You can't put Cam out there for 4 quarters running simple stuff, not having legit audbile ability, etc vs Ron Rivera. 

 

That is why I have been vocal in my hope that PJ Walker still gets to see some playing time, especially these next couple games while Cam is still learning the playbook. The 2 QB system could really work in this offense. Joe Brady's offense has already been called predictable by several defenses the Panthers have faced and this gives defenses something else to prepare for. Especially with Cam in the red zone. 

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10 minutes ago, joemac said:

Its now glaringly evident that Sam was the main, gigantic problem on our offense.  Even the o-line looked like a real NFL line once Sam was out, and thats with a bum like Daley playing LT.  

Yep. I honestly didn't expect the OL to look so much better but I'm not at all surprised that the WRs did. The Darnold slurpers always kicked me for calling out Darnold's hospital balls but look at how much better our receivers caught the football when they didn't have their heads on swivels wondering if Darnold was throwing them into another car crash.

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2 hours ago, Panther'sBigD said:

This whole "Ron knows Cam" narrative cracks me up. What's he going to do to Cam with all of that 'knowledge?' His defense is on IR, and he's going to have a hard time slowing down Cam now that he's not his coach. He can't bench him for not wearing a tie on the bus, or run him into the ground because his OC is too busy eating paste to draw up a decent game plan. IF, and that's a massive IF, he's able to stifle Cam, we can just swap in PJ and blow his mind. Ron is trash against backup QBs, and with our current setup, basically both Cam and PJ are backups depending on who's in the game. Call it Schrödinger's QB. 

Well, they did manage to beat Tompa Bay last week.  So they can at least put something together.

Ron knows every blitz, coverage, look Cam struggles with.  He knows his tendencies when a play breaks down.  The throws and runs he likes.   I think that is why you have to work PJ in and not have a play and audible handicapped Cam playing all 4 quarters. 

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