Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Sam Howell declares for the draft


Varking
 Share

Recommended Posts

12 minutes ago, Wanderlai said:

I wouldn’t mind drafting him...if we can trade down and still pick him up. There is always a rush for QBs though. Somehow I’m guessing Rhule won’t draft a QB. He will have to double down on Sam. 

The fear is that we somehow take a can't miss situation in this top 6 pick and fumble it. Taking a QB is fumbling it.

There are elite OL and potentially DE(highly unlikely to drop) options available. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Fair enough but at pick #6 I want to shoot a little higher

Playing Devil’s advocate, because of the rookie scale, teams can be a little more open to risk. I don’t want him at all, but the “cost” is relatively low and the reward (potentially) high.

The only thing the Panthers should be allowed to do for the next 2 years is spend all our picks and anybody else’s that’ll let us on OLine.  And then draft some oline.  Only THEN should you draft more oline.  After drafting oline.

… draft oline.

James Corden Seriously GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

He probably has the second highest floor but I agree his ceiling might be limited. But, I wasn't a big fan of Burrow or Jones either and they seem to being doing well. I would say he is in that "class" of potential starter. Maybe without the obvious intangibles edge for Burrow.

I don't think there are any of these QB's that are remotely safe choices. Hence why I keep saying late first is about when I would start looking at any of them. I realize we probably get at least two in the top 15 drafted, so we will see what happens.

Burrow is playing like one of the best QBs in the league this year so far, I would happily take that "class" of starter.

Fans get caught up in this idea of "floor" and "ceiling", Tom Brady could be in the draft and half this fan base would say his "ceiling" is too low.

All things being equal everybody wants the bigger arm or better mobility but there is another aspect of "ceiling" that is hard to define.  What does that QB do on 3rd and long when his first read is covered, does he automatically know where his second read is going to come open?  It's so hard to quantify a QB's thinking process, hence the reason QB evaluation is so difficult.

Personally, I feel better about Pickett and Howell, Corrall and Willis make me more nervous.  Also, I would feel better about trading down and drafting one.  That extra pick would help mitigate the risk somewhat.  For example, I might take Howell and a 2nd over Pickett at 8.

Having that 2nd would really be good right now, you could stay put and take a LT and then try and package the 2nd to move back into the back half of the first round if you were determined to take a QB.

 

 

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Playing Devil’s advocate, because of the rookie scale, teams can be a little more open to risk. I don’t want him at all, but the “cost” is relatively low and the reward (potentially) high.

The only thing the Panthers should be allowed to do for the next 2 years is spend all our picks and anybody else’s that’ll let us on OLine.  And then draft some oline.  Only THEN should you draft more oline.  After drafting oline.

… draft oline.

James Corden Seriously GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden

Sure but in theory there is top tier talent in the 6/7 range and normally it falls off a cliff past pick 10 or so.   So value wise it would be much wiser to pick the oline instead of "reaching" for a qb just because he is cheap.  I also seriously seriously doubt that Howell is #1 on their board.  

 

Again I dont know if the corrall injury helps or hurts the value of our position.  I just know that we most certainly will be in striking distance of the tier 1 line talent and it would be foolish to walk away from that simply in the name of trying to recoup some of our picks due to a bad trade

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, T-Wazzle said:

I'm saying if they insist on a qb.

I don't want them to draft a qb at all, o-line all the way.   Preferably after trading down.

But these are Matt Ruhle's Panthers we're talking about. 

teams that need QBs don’t pass on QBs.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Burrow is playing like one of the best QBs in the league this year so far, I would happily take that "class" of starter.

Slightly ot but he's absolutely playing his ass off.  If we can get anything like that then sign me up.  Thanks to him Cincinnati might get their first playoff win since Super Mario Bros 3 was a hot new video game.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • or you could call him Bomanicious   I'm going with King Tet
    • T-Mac put up good numbers for 3 consecutive seasons on teams without a good QB situation, and in an environment where T-Mac got game planned against weekly and still performed. Teams threw all kinds of defensive coverages against T-Mac, and he still found ways week in and week out to contribute at a high level. XL was basically a 1-year wonder. Doesn't mean he cant be great (and I think him & T-Mac will compliment each other well), but i think T-Mac is the more polished of the 2 right now. This certainly isn't a perfect comparison, but I hope XL & T-Mac can approximate what we had with Smitty & Moose (Although i think T-Macs ceiling is higher than Moose and XLs ceiling is lower than Smitty). Both those guys were multiple Pro Bowlers and even All-Pro. T-Mac & XL have a long way to go to actually being comparable, but the potential is there. And regardless of how this season turns out, you can actually see a strategic plan being executed. On paper, I think this offensive roster has as much talent as any Panthers team since 2017. Defense is still a question mark, and it's unrealistic to think we will go from being historically bad to great in 1 year, but based on historical and statistical data, we stand a much better chance of turning the defense around in 1 year than the offense. I still want us to potentially add at S, CB, and ILB, but this roster is exponentially better than the roster heading into the 2023 season. Which still begs the question of how & why the team thought they were in a good position to trade all the way up. Regardless, it's in the past, and while the past 2 years have mostly sucked, we are strategically in a much better position than we have been in years. This is easily the best WR group since 2020 IMO (Moore, Anderson, Samuel). I'm super excited about what T-Mac can bring to this offense and team, and I'm really hoping we continue to build off where we ended last year offensively, and hopefully we've made enough improvements on defense to be competitive. I've also been vocal for the most part in supporting BY9. He came into an awful situation and to a team that was in no position to make such a trade.   Still, this is Year 3. And this is a team that IMHO has both the talent & depth on offense to score and score a lot. Most QBs that ever amount to anything are competing by Year 3. There are no excuses for the offense not to perform. I think BY9 knows full well what's riding on this year in terms of his long term future.  And I think T-Mac is a massive piece in helping Bryce and the team get over the hump and back into playoff contention.  
×
×
  • Create New...