Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

In my ideal world


Recommended Posts

In my ideal world, Tepper sales the team to Ben Navarro. The stadium gets natural grass back. Keep Pounding gets the recognition it deserves. We keep building the place in Rock Hill but people don’t remember Tepper for it. We promote Dan Morgan to GM and fire Matt Rhule. We hire Hackett, Eberflus, or Pederson. Darnold is kept as a back up due to the contract but we build the OL in free agency and take a QB in the draft. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

We’ll the principal is the same for me. I don’t know how the chart grades the values well but in this case, would you be willing to make a move like this? I would absolutely be willing to move down 20 spots and add a 1st and 3rd next year. I feel that protects the future and still gives Rhule a first to hopefully begin the Oline improvement this season

I would consider it. More picks is most often better, except when you have a really high pick.

So it would depend on how the draft board looks like and what grades I have on the o-line and QB prospects at the end of first and early second round. And taking a look at next year's prospects.

I could talk myself into swing and miss on these fringe QB prospects. And it would not affect my plan to take a QB with the first rounder the next year. Somewhat what Cardinals did with Rosen and Murray, you try till you hit. Maybe trade back before doing so. But O-line is of course an option. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My problem with Rhule compared to Rivera is that we were about a .500 team each year and was competitive. Under Rhule we don’t seem to be developing any talent and a lot of guys seem to be regressing. We don’t seem to be competitive and Rhule seems to be cutting/trading players that end up doing great for the other team. Rhule also seems to show loyalty to players from  his college days which is dumb. PJ Washington shouldn’t be our back up, we should have had a nfl vet as our back up to help Darnold this year. Our first round pick from last year doesn’t seem to be developing, we are moving players to different positions like Chinn instead of letting them play a position they are good at.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I have considered that myself.  Limit the future damage Rhule could do to this team by taking away his ability to trade away future picks.  Its the best case scenario really.  But I fear it's a pipe dream. 

I agree on tying Rhules hands in someway to keep from giving away the farm.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In my ideal word, the Bucs blow us out in hilarious fashion tomorrow and Tepper accepts Rhule is trash, fores him, and hires an offensive minded head coach who drafts Sam Howell.

 

You had me until...

*shudders*

until...

*retches violently*

until...

team america vomit GIF

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In my ideal world,

1. we get blown out tomorrow resulting in Rhule getting canned. 

2. We hire an actual NFL staff with experience

3. We manage to trade down and aquire at least a second but remain high enough in the 1st to aquire one of the top 3 tackles or Linderbaum if the trade is sweet enough to move down that far

4. No high priced FA. Darnold plays out year 5 as a backup. Cam or whoever at QB. Wait until 2023 to draft one. Get what we can and don't overpay our FAs on one year wonders. 

5. Build a real culture in Carolina of winning and enough talking about it. Just fugging do it already. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My plan... for what it's worth (if we are keeping Rhule).

-Hire an OC with NFL experience.

-Draft O-line. Doesn't really matter who's there at QB with the current line. First round, then package some later round picks to move up to 2nd or 3rd if possible, and draft another offensive lineman.

-Bring back Darnold and Cam.  No need to trade away any draft capital or decent players currently on the roster for a QB, because we're going to be mediocre anyway at best.  Darnold may be decent with a better line and another year working with the present receivers and McCaffery. Regardless, costs too much to try to upgrade at the QB position.

-Play McCaffery more in the slot than at RB. Maybe we can keep him healthy longer that way. At the very least, limit his carries between the tackles for goodness sake.

Then Tepper can fire Rhule next season and hopefully draft a quarterback.

 

Of course, would rather cut ties with Rhule as option 1. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I’m not necessarily advocating sticking with Bryce. His highs show the ability is there, but there’s enough bad film out there to doubt that he can consistently enough play at a high enough level. But this video from Brett Kollman is a pretty good argument to give it a bit more time, whether that be rolling with Bryce just next year or picking up his 5th year option (not extending him).      The gist is that the structural (wider hashes) and rule (3 yd vs 1 yd thresholds for intelligible offensive lineman downfield penalties) differences in the college and NFL have led to wildly different play calling and scheme diets in college. There is much more shotgun and RPO calls in college and screen/quick throws. This simply doesn’t set up young QBs to be able to play under center, which is more preferred in the NFL due to RBs being able to more effectively run out of that formation.  They don’t know how to do it and have to learn. Yes, the NFL has trended more toward college style offense in the last decade or so, but it isn’t that pronounced and is more out of necessity than desire. And on top of all that, they ask the young QBs to do all this learning with coaching and other personnel churn going on around them.  Bad results lead to coaches getting fired and new ones with different ideas on scheme and footwork and different terminology and playbooks coming in. It makes it harder on those young QBs to learn.     So we may drop Bryce for a young QB starter in the draft and be in a similar situation. With a QB who is going to take years to learn how to operate in an NFL style offense and will struggle along the way.  So you have to weigh whether the struggles we see from Bryce are more due to this learning process vs solely physical limitations on his part. It’s almost undoubtedly a bit of both, but the answer to that question I think dictates your strategy at QB over the next few years. And of course, you have to consider what the alternatives available are.    I’m neither a Bryce hater or a Bryce Stan and I don’t have an answer to that question. But I do fear that if we move on from him, unless it’s for an established player, we’re just in for continued frustration on the QB front because it’s going to take a few years for a college QB to develop (Drake Maye’s don’t grow on trees). 
    • The defense has pulled that feat off this season though.  Multiple times. offense has not had a single good first half all season.  Only and good opening scripted drive paired with disappointing play.  defense has been the actual unit you can measure real and consistent improvement IMO.  Still holes and flaws to it that aren’t going away until new bodies get here but they really are the story of the season IMO
    • One thing about RB's and LB's is they are going to get hurt. It's inevitable. Having a fresh Chuba is not a bad thing.  My only criticism of this entire situation is that I wish our staff would adjust personnel to matchup a little better. I think Chuba is a lot better than Rico against the stacked boxes we've seen the last two weeks. They are very different backs with very different strengths, and I love them both. Rico is so good at identifying the hole early, and hitting it full speed early. He's much better at breaking the big run. Chuba is a much more patient back, and finds 3 yards when there's nothing there better than Rico.  It's in no way a criticism of either, but I think Chuba would have had more success than Rico the way the Saints and Falcons attacked us from a Defensive standpoint.  When you put 9 in the box, often times there is no hole to attack. 
×
×
  • Create New...