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This is not about a coach who needs a 3rd year to get his guys. This is about a coach who is not NFL ready.  Rhule and his staff are out coached every game.  Other teams  make adjustments,  they cannot  counter.  Look at the 3rd qtr stats.  Those stats are not about players they are about coaching.   The decisions made or not made about the Oline in itself shows a lack of judgement about pro personnel.  There is no progress from year 1 to year 2.  Make a bold decision ( I hear you have brass balls) and get a new coaching staff to lead this team.  And just a  thought...the traditional GM/coach model  has worked pretty well over time.   Cut your losses  and get your fanbase back and get us excited. (Also...please do not abandon our Keep Pounding mantra...it is who we are.)

 

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13 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

This is not about a coach who needs a 3rd year to get his guys. This is about a coach who is not NFL ready.  Rhule and his staff are out coached every game.  Other teams  make adjustments,  they cannot  counter.  Look at the 3rd qtr stats.  Those stats are not about players they are about coaching.   The decisions made or not made about the Oline in itself shows a lack of judgement about pro personnel.  There is no progress from year 1 to year 2.  Make a bold decision ( I hear you have brass balls) and get a new coaching staff to lead this team.  And just a  thought...the traditional GM/coach model  has worked pretty well over time.   Cut your losses  and get your fanbase back and get us excited. (Also...please do not abandon our Keep Pounding mantra...it is who we are.)

 

You can also add in to that list , his 2021 draft picks ., 

who were either bad draft picks or he couldn’t coach them up to get on the field or get a helmet on game day

Horn .. injuried. But looks promising. No Grade , but might be an “ A “ player if he stays healthy. 

T Marshall. . Couldn’t get a helmet over a special team player who was cut the next week, grade D 

B Christensen .. wasn’t on the field first half of the season. Grade D 

T Tremble  tight end. 18 catches , 1 TD , Grade D 

C Hubbard. Played often and at times looked promising. Grade C 
 

So overall , they were bad picks, or the coaches couldn’t coach them up to get on the field. Coaches grade F

overall draft grade after one year = D 
 

And he’ll be drafting again in 2022 

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13 minutes ago, OceanPanther said:

You can also add in to that list , his 2021 draft picks ., 

who were either bad draft picks or he couldn’t coach them up to get on the field or get a helmet on game day

Horn .. injuried. But looks promising. No Grade , but might be an “ A “ player if he stays healthy. 

T Marshall. . Couldn’t get a helmet over a special team player who was cut the next week, grade D 

B Christensen .. wasn’t on the field first half of the season. Grade D 

T Tremble  tight end. 18 catches , 1 TD , Grade D 

C Hubbard. Played often and at times looked promising. Grade C 
 

So overall , they were bad picks, or the coaches couldn’t coach them up to get on the field. Coaches grade F

overall draft grade after one year = D 
 

And he’ll be drafting again in 2022 

Dunno how you can give these players grades like that when half of em can't see the field because of Rhule.

Edit: I mean for example BC has seen limited action but is one of our best OL by grade lol

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39 minutes ago, OceanPanther said:

You can also add in to that list , his 2021 draft picks ., 

who were either bad draft picks or he couldn’t coach them up to get on the field or get a helmet on game day

Horn .. injuried. But looks promising. No Grade , but might be an “ A “ player if he stays healthy. 

T Marshall. . Couldn’t get a helmet over a special team player who was cut the next week, grade D 

B Christensen .. wasn’t on the field first half of the season. Grade D 

T Tremble  tight end. 18 catches , 1 TD , Grade D 

C Hubbard. Played often and at times looked promising. Grade C 
 

So overall , they were bad picks, or the coaches couldn’t coach them up to get on the field. Coaches grade F

overall draft grade after one year = D 
 

And he’ll be drafting again in 2022 

I still think it was a decent draft. Tepper just won't get these guys on the field to develop and shine. I'm not going to blame the players for that. And sure, they had a few injuries, but injuries happen. 

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You can also add in to that list , his 2021 draft picks ., 

who were either bad draft picks or he couldn’t coach them up to get on the field or get a helmet on game day

Horn .. injuried. But looks promising. No Grade , but might be an “ A “ player if he stays healthy. 

T Marshall. . Couldn’t get a helmet over a special team player who was cut the next week, grade D 

B Christensen .. wasn’t on the field first half of the season. Grade D 

T Tremble  tight end. 18 catches , 1 TD , Grade D 

C Hubbard. Played often and at times looked promising. Grade C 
 

So overall , they were bad picks, or the coaches couldn’t coach them up to get on the field. Coaches grade F

overall draft grade after one year = D 
 

And he’ll be drafting again in 2022 

You forgot about the Long Snappa from Alabama, what grade are you giving him? You know he walked from Tuscaloosa to Clt for his first day on the job.

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