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Florio: Panthers understand they have to give up 3 firsts, another pick, and 1-2 (Chinn, Burns, Brown, Horn)

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1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

I want Rhule gone and I think this team won't have a chance until he is  gone, but I don't want it done because some player won't come here unless he gets his HC of choice. I know it would probably be Brian Flores who would be an incredible upgrade, but I would rather just Tepper bite the bullet on his own and make it happen rather than using Watson as an excuse. 

If he's not convinced enough about Rhule to even let it be a non-starter in negotiations with Watson, then Rhule should have been gone already.

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2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I want Rhule gone and I think this team won't have a chance until he is  gone, but I don't want it done because some player won't come here unless he gets his HC of choice. I know it would probably be Brian Flores who would be an incredible upgrade, but I would rather just Tepper bite the bullet on his own and make it happen rather than using Watson as an excuse. 

If he's not convinced enough about Rhule to even let it be a non-starter in negotiations with Rhule, then Rhule should have been gone already.

Yep, the insanity behind keeping Rhule is evident again with this whole fiasco.

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53 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

This is a huge red flag.  Tepper is really trending in the wrong direction fast.

Tepper reeks of desperation and has put the Panthers in a horrible position where they have no leverage.

Sure, Jerry Richardson ran a Mom and Pop organization for two decades.

But, that's still far better than David Tepper's Amateur Hour that we've been witnessing for the last 3 years.  

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3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Tepper reeks of desperation and has put the Panthers in a horrible position where they have no leverage.

Sure, Jerry Richardson ran a Mom and Pop organization for two decades.

But, that's still far better than David Tepper's Amateur Hour that we've been witnessing for the last 3 years.  

On one hand its been refreshing to see an owner put his foot down and not tolerate stagnation. But it is alarming that he seems to meddle too much. I feel like he risks stalling necessary growth and road bumps to chase instant success. 

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1 minute ago, OneBadCat said:

On one hand its been refreshing to see an owner put his foot down and not tolerate stagnation. But it is alarming that he seems to meddle too much. I feel like he risks stalling necessary growth and road bumps to chase instant success. 

It's OK to put your foot down. But so far Tepper has been stomping on turds. 

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15 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Yep, the insanity behind keeping Rhule is evident again with this whole fiasco.

Tepper probably told him to play out this year, serve whatever suspension he will get and Rhule is gone.

They will pick a coach together next offseason.

That is the only logical reason why Rhule is still employed.  

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20 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I want Rhule gone and I think this team won't have a chance until he is  gone, but I don't want it done because some player won't come here unless he gets his HC of choice. I know it would probably be Brian Flores who would be an incredible upgrade, but I would rather just Tepper bite the bullet on his own and make it happen rather than using Watson as an excuse. 

If he's not convinced enough about Rhule to even let it be a non-starter in negotiations with Watson, then Rhule should have been gone already.

Yep. Having a player-GM sounds like a really, really dumb decision.

How are you supposed to coach a player who you know got you the job and could also get you tired tomorrow? You'd basically have an NBA team in the NFL.

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The Cleveland Browns have been aggressive about Watson and are “incredibly interested,” and are regarded as a “wild-card entry” into his trade market

The Browns are among up to 10 teams that have been actively monitoring the situation, Wilson reported, adding Cleveland has done a lot of work on Watson lately and is regarded as “a wild-card entry” into his trade market.

The Browns have Baker Mayfield installed as their starting quarterback, but Watson is obviously better.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/sources-deshaun-watson-trade-market-expanding-rapidly-since-game-changer-legal-ruling-here-are-the-most-aggressive-suitors-for-franchise-quarterback/

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Just now, OneBadCat said:

On one hands its been refreshing to see an owner put his foot down and not tolerate stagnation. But it is alarming that he seems to meddle too much. I feel like he risks stalling necessary growth and road bumps to chase instant success. 

Tepper is wasting his wealth in all the wrong areas.

Tepper has made poor decisions from the outset.  Had he hired a successful NFL executive 3 years ago, (rather than putting all his trust in Hurney) this unfortunate turn of events could have easily been avoided.  Instead, Tepper foolishly puts all the team's decision making authority in the hands of Matt Rhule, an NFL novice.

The rest is history.

I honestly don't see a way back to relevance for the Panthers if Tepper doesn't radically change his ways. 

Mortgaging the team's future for one player isn't the answer. 

The NFL isn't the PGA.

This is the Vikings Herschel Walker trade disaster all over again.

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4 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Tepper probably told him to play out this year, serve whatever suspension he will get and Rhule is gone.

They will pick a coach together next offseason.

That is the only logical reason why Rhule is still employed.  

This could be the system working 1000% that we just can't see, yet. 

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