Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

No more Watson threads. Use this one or one of the other 20 existing ones.


rayzor
 Share

Recommended Posts

3 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

I was told we should patiently rebuild for 4-5 years. Still waiting on that example. 

Has our rebuild even started? We are still at the beginning of the rebuild because of all the idiotic moves these guys have made. so we have to wait 4-5 more years if we follow this guys method? fug that. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

Ahhh okay. Now the truth comes out. This is all about not wanting Rhule around. I couldn't give a poo whether Rhule sticks around or not as long as Carolina wins games. I don't think he's very good, but worse coaches have won Super Bowls. 

Worse coaches?  I guess the QB sets the game plans.  I suppose Watson with all his SB rings and appearances will help the coach along.  What Watson doesn't have any?  You don't say.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The most acceptable trade scenario for me that makes sense for both sides is:

Carolina gets:

Deshaun Watson

Houston gets:

’22, ‘23, ‘24 1st round picks

’23 3rd round pick

Brian Burns

Sam Darnold 

Terrace Marshall Jr.

 

Not many have mentioned TMJ, but Texans have a young QB and surrounding him with another weapon always helps.

Edited by Julio
  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, panthertime said:

Draft Malik Willis and let him understudy under Cam and attempt to rebuild the O-Line from free agency and the draft.

Don’t mortgage the future and give away our many of our top players for Watson.

And if we rebuild the team and Willis sucks, where does that leave us? Giving up multiple firsts to get a legitimate QB three years from now? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, panthertime said:

Draft Malik Willis and let him understudy under Cam and attempt to rebuild the O-Line from free agency and the draft.

Don’t mortgage the future and give away our many of our top players for Watson.

Cam is a free agent.

Some team will probably trade up to take Malik in front of us. 

I would rather trade picks for a guy I know can play QB at the NFL level than an unproven rookie, especially one that played his college ball for Liberty. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Julio said:

The most acceptable trade scenario that makes sense for both sides is:

Carolina gets:

Deshaun Watson

Houston gets:

’22, ‘23, ‘24 1st round picks

’23 3rd round pick

Brian Burns

Sam Darnold 

Terrace Marshall Jr.

 

Not many have mentioned TMJ, but Texans have a young QB and surrounding him with another weapon always helps.

Schitts Creek No GIF by CBC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

If we have to trade up some to get a franchise QB  next year, then so be it.  It's not THREE first rounders, a 2nd, 3rd and two key defensive players.  Oh by the way, clown-boy is roaming the sidelines.

I am nearly certain that if Watson goes elsewhere this team will be bad enough to get a top 15 pick. Zero doubt in my mind.  Will we have to trade up for a QB?  Possibly, but it won't be for the stupidly-insane amount we are willing to give up for Watson. 

yeah, no poo the price tag will be lower, because no rookie QB is anywhere near the surefire talent of Watson. there's also substantial risk that the guy you trade up for ends up stinking up the joint, and you've then you've set yourself back years. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

I'm still waiting for someone to give me an example of a team that "patiently" (and successfully) rebuilds for 4-5 years

No such thing as a 4 or 5 year rebuild. Most NFL players careers aren’t even that long. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Basically every team's rebuild time is the period of time it takes them to draft a top tier QB.

The Rams drafted Jared Goff at the start of their rebuild, and accumulated tons of talent around him and on defense.  They realized Goff wasn't going to be enough, so they cashed out their future 1sts to go all in on the roster they built.

The Broncos traded for Wilson because correct or not, they believe they have a Super Bowl roster waiting for him.

We're just hot shotting a trade for a veteran franchise QB without the roster to go with it.  I don't understand why our current FO is so averse to drafting their own QB, when that's literally how any team goes from being bad to good.  They draft their own QB.

49ers managed to do it twice within a decade and they didn't make any lopsided trades, the roster was built through the draft and Free Agency.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Julio said:

The most acceptable trade scenario for me that makes sense for both sides is:

Carolina gets:

Deshaun Watson

Houston gets:

’22, ‘23, ‘24 1st round picks

’23 3rd round pick

Brian Burns

Sam Darnold 

Terrace Marshall Jr.

 

Not many have mentioned TMJ, but Texans have a young QB and surrounding him with another weapon always helps.

Texans have Nico Colins, Chris Conley, and Brandin Cooks. They arent looking for WRs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Worse coaches?  I guess the QB sets the game plans.  I suppose Watson with all his SB rings and appearances will help the coach along.  What Watson doesn't have any?  You don't say.....

Right, only QBs who have already won Super Bowls can win Super Bowls. Good point. You win. I give up. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • With the exception of knowing our obvious needs and who we were talking to along the way, my question is this:  How did so many people start on this Jalon Walker frenzy?  I think this--everyone wants to have a voice, make a prediction.  Now with social media and 24 hour tv, networks, etc.  it is more like a middle school grapevine than it is a process where people actually dig for real evidence and reasons.  Speculative journalism is lazy, and since there are now 2,348.356 podcasters with basement studios blasting nonsense into our phones all day, I think they just cut and paste ideas.  Yes, coaches lie and mislead, but I don't think Morgan or Canales did.  You are only as reliable as your sources.  Was Morgan more deliberate this year?  I think he heard the gossip and decided to downplay WR.  He said, (paraphrasing) "We like our QB room.  We will probably add to it at some point."  Not a lie, but definitely downplaying things. I was convinced that we needed a blazer to keep safeties honest, but to be honest, I am not sure that we have the QB with the arm to keep safeties honest.  We have Coker who is 6'1", Theilen is 6'2", and Legette is 6'3" and now TMac is 6'4"+.  It seems size has more value than blazing deep speed.  If I had known they thought that, I might have gone with TMac all along--I thought he was not a good fit.  And if you look at the Panther guide and consider the talent they met with in the first round, there was only one offensive player--TMac. There was another quote that Morgan made that might have been a bit revealing or at least directive. (Paraphrasing) "We want players that were productive in college."  Well, TMac was very productive. In 2023 and in 2024, he averaged 108.8 yards per game.   He is also a great artist.  Drew this portrait of Bryce Young from memory: Many people spent 3 months absolutely confident that Jalon Walker would play edge here. We had a need at edge, but with Clowney, Wonnum, and Jones, were we OK if we drafted a second round Edge? Was Walker the answer?  Unlike Hunter, he is a versatile player who could be awesome in the right system, but if used as a pure edge, he is not a top 10 player.  I was convinced that we would sign Jalon and as much as I like the kid, I could not feel good about the pick.  Mykel Williams scared me.  Both might be great players, but I could not see it.  So was Scourton productive? He was as a Jr when he was standing.  When asked to be other things, he lost his edge (pun intended). In essence, I think we got the best pure edge when you take away the other things he was supposed to do.  Walker's productivity was based on his versatility--something he would lose as a pure edge--so we would not really be meeting needs at edge.  Scourton, on the other hand, is better when not asked to be versatile.  Princely had 10.5 sacks in the SEC.  It simply makes sense.
    • I think they will too. Renfrow will use this opportunity to get in shape and get paid for it. After he's cut he will probably get picked up by someone after preseason.
×
×
  • Create New...