The Watson Thread - Part Deux

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Cousins isn’t clutch. DW is. Again that article I posted earlier. Read it.

Well, if you look at Cousins at Washington, he had more Game Winning Drives in his first three full years as a starter than Watson had his last three seasons(removing partial years for both QB's). 

Remember Redskins Cousins hadn't developed his "choker" reputation yet.

[HPPantherzfan]

8 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

You think giving up all your high draft picks for three years, plus all of your good players equals winning MORE?

The draft picks don't bother me so much, you're giving up the unknown for the known, not just that, a proven commodity in the position that is most important on the field.  Those high draft picks could turn out to be world beaters or they could ride the pine and wasted anyway, you really don't know.  We all know Watson can, and has, played at a very high level.

[uncfan888]

Browns are meeting him at 3 according to wfnz

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, frankw said:

Yet you advocate holding onto an oft injured running back that is crushing our salary cap without a real QB. What do YOU want?

I advocate holding onto the best running back in the NFL, a multi-position All-Pro player who's been healthy since Christmas and was held out to tank. But for a good price (an actually good one, not a second-round pick Rhule will use on some loser he recruited), I would be willing to part with most any non-Burns or Moore player. 

I want a plan in place that offsets the recent stupidity. I want to extend Moore, fortify the offensive line, and fire Matt Rhule. I want to keep Brian Burns, a Pro Bowl DE on a rookie contract, and I want to add a run-stuffing DT in the draft. 

[SgtJoo]

 

[emcannon]

I used to think the endless Watson thread was useless. But then come to find out you can reload a page with F5. Thanks Huddle!

[TheRumGone]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well, if you look at Cousins at Washington, he had more Game Winning Drives in his first three full years as a starter than Watson had his last three seasons(removing partial years for both QB's). 

Remember Redskins Cousins hadn't developed his "choker" reputation yet.

Watson has been doing this since college. If you think watson won’t be clutch anymore that’s fine I’m not gonna argue in hypotheticals like that. It’s pointless.

[MHS831]

13 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

so he's going to cleveland??? is that where we are at now?

Yes. He likes orange helmets.  The Browns agreed to keep them orange.  Deal done.

[Panthercougar68]

1 minute ago, SgtJoo said:

 

Anyone with a observer subscription to give a run down?

[unicar15]

Nobody is safe in this deal and that’s how it should be. You have one chance to land a QB like this. They just do not get traded….ever. Watson would have been a Texan for life if not for some strange extenuating circumstances. You get the deal done and you worry about the pieces later. Clear the cap and commit to signing free agents. The rams are making it work. Find a coach that can do it if Rhule can’t. But you cannot let Watson sign elsewhere. 

 

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, NCTHFL0567 said:

At least Watson won a playoff game or two. Cousins went to a stacked Vikings team and can't even get them to the Playoffs consistently. 

Yeah, I mean I think Watson is better too but I am more so playing the devils advocate of why it might not be a great idea to expend all these resources on a guy that really still isn't a completely proven commodity. 

Hence the core of my counter argument about the price. Stafford and Wilson were PROVEN commodities. Time tested. Watson just isn't.

I won't argue against the talent level, that is obvious.

Edited March 15, 2022 by kungfoodude

[Smittymoose]

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

Anyone with a observer subscription to give a run down?

I was able to read it. Doesn't say much of anything we don't already know. Organization felt like it went really well, but Watson holds the cards. 

[SgtJoo]

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

Anyone with a observer subscription to give a run down?

It really doesn't say much at all. Not much new anyway.

Quote

The general feeling within the organization, according to a source with direct knowledge of the situation, was that the meeting was a “great” one.

“That being said, it’s still in his hands, as well as the Texans,” the source told The Observer.

 

One of the biggest factors involved in the trade is Watson’s no-trade clause. He would have to approve any trade the Texans make.

But the fact that he would meet with team officials signals he’s interested.

 

[jayboogieman]

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

While I agree, if it's not LA, NY, MIA, etc., teams winning is a huge factor in the coverage we get...

But man, there is more to it than you are letting on.  What have the Cowboys done every year, basically since the triplets retired besides flail out of contention?  Yet, every season it never fails, they are taking up the airwaves nonstop.  They may have been super popular for bandwagoners between the Landry Years up through the 90s, but nobody gives a flying poo about that wack ass team besides people that were born into fandom with them.  Yet, they are talked about incessantly as though they are one of the NFL's flagship teams.  They fuging suck.  They do nothing but disappoint every fuging year.

Hell, the Browns historically suck, and they got plenty of airtime the last 2 years between the Baker stuff, Myles Garrett, and OBJ.  But have anything they've done truly merit that attention?  Especially last season?  No.

The NFL has constantly, throughout our history, used us as a prop for other teams and better storylines.  Media, for the most part, are fed the stories they are to push by their corporate partners (in this case the NFL)...  so, there is definitely more to it besides "we just suck.  No one is picking on us."

Dallas is a big market team and one of the most popular sports franchises in the country. That's why they get primetime games and talked about more than the Panthers.

When the Panthers have had those few good 10 or 10+ win seasons, they have followed it up with bad seasons. That has kept the media from talking about the Panthers more as well. It's really not more complicated than what makes the most money is what gets talked about.