Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Most Underrated Player on Every NFL Team


kungfoodude
 Share

Recommended Posts

Gonna go with Shaq, he has blossomed into one of our teams leaders and has really developed his coverage instincts. You can really sometimes see how Luke rubbed off on him with some of the play recognition interceptions he has.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Bottom tier or not, how many CB’s can play 95 coverage snaps and only allow one catch?

He was only credited with 5 targets during that time so my guess is quite a few could pull that off.

I'm not downplaying his potential at all, simply saying that the sample size is too small for any kid of rating. Hell, Bene Benwikere and Mike Remmers were among the best at their respective positions at the end of 2014 and we know how that worked out.

I can't find the Remmers rank at rhe moment but here's Bene. Only point here, again, is about sample size and drawing conclusions.

 

 

Edited by KSpan
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think they were going with "underrated league wide" hence why they chose Moton. 

Shaq is a solid choice but he wouldn't make a ton of radars in the league, IMO.

Horn and Brown are just goofy. Horn played about 10 seconds and Brown has largely been a disappointment.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think they were going with "underrated league wide" hence why they chose Moton. 

Shaq is a solid choice but he wouldn't make a ton of radars in the league, IMO.

Horn and Brown are just goofy. Horn played about 10 seconds and Brown has largely been a disappointment.

You could also say Shaq getting paid pretty much double what he's worth puts him "overrated" to this organization. Better guys are making like $7-10M a year, Shaq's getting $20M 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, KSpan said:

He was only credited with 5 targets during that time so my guess is quite a few could pull that off.

I'm not downplaying his potential at all, simply saying that the sample size is too small for any kid of rating. Hell, Bene Benwikere and Mike Remmers were among the best at their respective positions at the end of 2014 and we know how that worked out.

I can't find the Remmers rank at rhe moment but here's Bene. Only point here, again, is about sample size and drawing conclusions.

 

 

I don't think it's fair to act like Bene just fell off a cliff because he turned out not to be good. That injury ruined him.

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, CRA said:

I'd probably go Shaq today.  Largely because Panther fans universally agree Moton is really good. 

 

I agree on Shaq, but there's one worry about Moton. He looks great compared to who we have lined up with him. Is he as good as we think, or is he just lots better than who we've had out there?

I think he's good, but honestly, the other parts of the line were so weak, they just kind of had to send someone to keep Taylor busy while busting through the other gaps. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Waldo said:

He isn't trash, he was just not worth a top 10 pick or even a first round pick. Would have been a solid 2nd or 3rd rounder to date. 

He is a 1st round talent IMO. The man was a beast in college and demanded double teams early his rookie year. He definitely took a step back last year, but I think he is in for a good year this season. I mean if teams wanted to run on us last year they had an easy path through Reddick or Burns.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think it's fair to act like Bene just fell off a cliff because he turned out not to be good. That injury ruined him.

I'm not meaning to imply that, more so that he settled back into good-to-very good range in 2015 before the injury but not best in the NFL. I agree completely that Bene was a quality player who had awful injury luck.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He is a 1st round talent IMO. The man was a beast in college and demanded double teams early his rookie year. He definitely took a step back last year, but I think he is in for a good year this season. I mean if teams wanted to run on us last year they had an easy path through Reddick or Burns.

They had just about as easy of a path through Brown.

He was supposed to be a disciplined run support guy but he has been anything but that.

Need him to put it all together this season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Here’s a summary of the JJ and Luke podcast transcript. Opening / Bryce Young Fifth-Year Option     •    JJ: Breaking news — Panthers picked up Bryce Young’s fifth-year option at $25.9M, guaranteed, coming in 2027. Combined with his 2025 salary of ~$6M, that’s $31M over two years — called it a “no-brainer.”     •    Luke: Enthusiastic about the move. Highlighted Bryce’s improving TD/INT ratios (11/10 → 15/9 → 23/11) and the value of entering year three with Dave Canales. Noted $25M is a bargain relative to the $60M top of market. Luke’s Personal Update — Charlotte Christian Football     •    Luke: Working with Charlotte Christian school football program, which hired a new head coach. Coaches include Greg Olsen, Luke, and Greg’s dad Chris Olsen (a New Jersey State coaching Hall of Famer).     •    JJ: Jokingly quipped that Charlotte Christian’s coaching staff is “the world’s greatest” — a Fox analyst, a Hall of Famer, and the best Panthers RB ever — all coaching middle school football.     •    Luke: Praised Chris Olsen’s deep football knowledge spanning decades and his ability to connect with kids. Round 1, Pick 19 — Monroe Freeling, OT, Georgia     •    JJ: Panthers were on the clock and submitted their pick almost immediately — a sign of confidence and preparation. Freeling is 6’7”, 320 lbs, played in the SEC in a pro-style system.     •    Luke: Loved the pick. Emphasized you can never have too many quality offensive linemen. Noted Freeling’s size, athleticism, and arm length as key traits. Said the pick also reflects team’s philosophy of drafting great people, not just great players.     •    JJ: Noted reporter Darren Gantt compared Freeling favorably to Jordan Gross — bigger, heavier, and faster — as a potential franchise left tackle.     •    Luke: Pointed out that young players like Freeling still have physical development ahead of them, comparing the trajectory to Christian McCaffrey’s growth from age 20 onward. Round 2, Pick 49 — Lee Hunter, DT, Texas Tech     •    JJ: Panthers traded up from 51 to 49 (pick swap with Minnesota) to grab Hunter. Played audio from Panthers area scout Kaden McLuhan, who scouted Hunter.     •    Scout Kaden McLuhan (audio): Said Hunter’s size is immediately striking, and that everyone around him spoke glowingly about his character, energy, and love for the game.     •    Luke: Praised Hunter as a massive (6’3”, 320 lbs, ~34” arms) two-gap nose tackle who fits perfectly in the Evero defense. Compared his prospect profile to Akiem Hicks. Said having Derek Brown, Bobby Brown, Derrick Brown, Terson Wharton, and now Hunter creates varied body types that stress offensive linemen.     •    JJ: Noted Hunter ranked third among all prospects in run-stuff rate and sixth in interior pass-rush win rate — addressing a perception that he couldn’t rush the passer. Rounds 3–7 Highlights     •    Luke: Highlighted WR Brazle (3rd round, 6’4”, 437 speed, 1,000+ yards at Tennessee) as the vertical threat the offense needed. Also praised OL Sam Heck (5th round) as a technically sound player whose “short arms” caused him to fall but who has proven himself.     •    Luke: Mentioned CB Will Lee (6’1”, 33” arms) fits the Panthers’ DB prototype — big, long corners.     •    Luke: Praised S/LB hybrid Zaki Wheatley (5th round, 6’3”) as a big nickel similar to Trayvon Merek.     •    Luke: Excited about the linebacker competition between Devin Lloyd, Trevvin Wallace, and Claudin Cherless.     •    JJ: Noted Panthers had the #1 “steal/overreach” rating in the entire draft — drafting players lower than consensus big boards projected. Around the League     •    Luke: Admitted being “a little jealous” that the Miami Dolphins drafted LB Jacob Rodriguez (Luke’s favorite LB in the draft). Has personal connections to Miami’s coaching staff (Jeff Hafley, DC Shawn Dugen — a childhood teammate).     •    Luke: Also noted Miami’s selection of OT/G Kaden Proctor out of Alabama, who will likely move to guard. League Trends — Bigger Tight Ends / 12 & 13 Personnel     •    JJ: Observed the NFL saw its highest run rate in ~11 years (~52%) and a notable pivot toward big blocking tight ends in this draft.     •    Luke: Explained the cyclical nature of NFL offense/defense evolution — as defenses get smaller to match spread offenses, teams counter with bigger personnel (12/13 formations), which then forces defenses to get bigger at the nickel/“big nickel” spot. Called it an ongoing arms race.
    • Dan Vladar is their best player and that is going to be the difference in the series 
×
×
  • Create New...