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Will the run defense hold up?

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Khyber53 Grand Master

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8 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

No doubt, there were some games that the run d looked really bad.  The Minnesota game comes to mind.  Can't help but wonder if part of that was mental, as the defense got tired of watching the offense contribute nothing at all.  

There were games where I don't think the guys on the sidelines could bear to watch the game at all. Sometimes that was echoed in the coaching box.

And us at home... 

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5 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He is only 14?!?!?!?!  Damn...

Before I stopped getting the paper, once a year they would list the top HS players on a whole page. I want to say 2014-ish and my god they have grown. Nearly all OL and DL were 320+ and looked it as well. The QBs were 6'5 220+, just insane the jump form my days when once one player on the team was 320+ and the whole divsion may have had 10 total. HGH and god knows what else...... for some is just getting 3 square meals and BOOM.

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The more I think about replacing Riddick by committee apraoch the less I look forward to it. It would be one thing to roll that way because of injuries but to do it willingly with the adjustment issues we showed last year just makes me think we will see a completely telegraphed D for any OC with half a brain to pick apart. Snow's scheme already stretches the front 7 to far IMO. I just can’t imagine how that works for him with lesser talent on a more difficult schedule.

 

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On 7/10/2022 at 5:55 PM, Mr. Scot said:

The factors for me...

Personnel acquisition prior to this offseason was skewed to the defensive side of the ball.

Defensive player acquisition has tended to emphasize speed over power.

Rhule and Snow basically built a defense that was heavily geared toward defending the pass.

Defense looked good early but once teams figured out they could run on us, it fell apart.

Not sure if Snow tried any major changes or adjustments, but if he did, it didn't show.

Bottom Line for me: What defensive improvement we've seen is probably due to the personnel emphasis, but the coaching and scheme have been lacking.

Not sure that changes this year.

Rhule built the Colts defense from the Manning years.

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

Rhule built the Colts defense from the Manning years.

Basically.

But that defense had the advantage that Manning was always putting teams down by a touchdown or two (or three) early so it was more difficult to commit to the run.

Bob Sanders was a big factor there too. The difference in that defense with him and without him was night and day.

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12 hours ago, Basbear said:

Before I stopped getting the paper, once a year they would list the top HS players on a whole page. I want to say 2014-ish and my god they have grown. Nearly all OL and DL were 320+ and looked it as well. The QBs were 6'5 220+, just insane the jump form my days when once one player on the team was 320+ and the whole divsion may have had 10 total. HGH and god knows what else...... for some is just getting 3 square meals and BOOM.

Dont throw out HGH when it comes to 14 year olds......what 14 year old is taking HGH???

My son is 14 and he is 6"2' and 260 pounds without any damn drugs. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically.

But that defense had the advantage that Manning was always putting teams down by a touchdown or two (or three) early so it was more difficult to commit to the run.

Bob Sanders was a big factor there too. The difference in that defense with him and without him was night and day.

No doubt.  You can kinda get away with it just due to Manning being the best QB I've ever seen.  That said, he should have a LOT more rings, and likely would have it they were to have focused a bit more on that side of the ball.

Fast is great if you have a high powered offense, when you have our offense, it just means that offensive coaches on the on the other team really don't need to game plan against us.

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