Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Vikings Wire writer taking potshots at Panthers


top dawg
 Share

Recommended Posts

A good not good enough QB vs a meh not good enough QB vs a not good backup QB is hardly something to celebrate. Now compare Cousins to the top 5 lol.

Be glad for what you have and try to do better if you can without shooting yourself in the foot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, top dawg said:

Well, this was mildly entertaining, if not unsolicited. 

"It seems like only yesterday the Carolina Panthers were reportedly 'laughing off' any potential interest in Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins.

"Now, they’re heading into the 2022 season with fellow castoffs, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield... “

"Is it funny now?"

"The rehabilitation project for Darnold, who saw more ghosts than Haley Joel Osment with the New York Jets, hasn’t gone according to plan. The Panthers still only won five games for a third straight season, and Darnold was still seeing Casper.

 

"Meanwhile, Mayfield is coming from a roster with an embarrassment of riches on the offensive side of the ball—reliable offensive line, two Pro Bowl running backs, a stud tight end and a receiving tandem with eight combined Pro Bowls between them.

"What more does one man need to be successful in the NFL?"

"Cousins is obviously a cut above both Darnold and Mayfield, and he gets lambasted daily, even following a season where he threw for 4,221 yards, 33 touchdowns and only seven interceptions. The Vikings’ “problem” would be another team’s treasure."

https://sports.yahoo.com/panthers-dismissal-kirk-cousins-proof-151426693.html

Well...maybe the grass isn't greener up there in Minny either. I certainly don't think a Vikings fan has a right to be clowning (notwithstanding that terrible pass by Darnold right to their guy).

 

My only response to the article's author: LOL whatever. It sounds like a fan who was having a bad day wrote this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, frankw said:

They barely outlasted a comeback attempt from a Sam Darnold led offense and he's chest thumping?

If we are going to make fun of them along those lines...

...they almost lost to the Lions TWICE.  They gave the Lions their first win of the season in week 13.  That's embarrassing enough.  However, they ALMOST lost to the Lions back in 5.  They needed a miracle finish to kick a 54 yard game winner as time expired to pull it out vs the Lions.  They also lost to Baker and the Browns.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lol what have the Vikings done with Cousins to be in a position to trash talk any team in the league. I'd take Baker at $5M over Cousins at his cap hit 100 times out of 100. Darnold was a mistake as was Teddy. Neither was as big or long term of a mistake though as Cousins in MN. They are stuck in purgatory with him.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, countryboi said:

I dont understand why I should care what he thinks

It's not about caring what he thinks TBH. But I understand that not everyone will see and appreciate the humor in it all.

I was amused by (in no particular order):

1) The writer's lack of understanding of the dynamics of our situation.

2) The fact that there may be elements of truth in what he is saying

3) His refusal to acknowledge that just like our moves could ultimately reap similarly bad things of the recent past, that it could also reap great benefits.

4) His omission of MC9 (which apparently is not just a thing by some here [*zinger* for the bastards 😂]

5)  Especially the irony in crying about us not wanting to pay the price for his QB that he must REALLY want gone. 

6) That he's writing about us at all (especially considering that his team provides plenty of fodder).

There are probably other amusing elements to this on different levels yet to be mentioned for anyone that cares to explore them (or not). 

It's simply just fodder for discussion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

33 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

If we are going to make fun of them along those lines...

...they almost lost to the Lions TWICE.  They gave the Lions their first win of the season in week 13.  That's embarrassing enough.  However, they ALMOST lost to the Lions back in 5.  They needed a miracle finish to kick a 54 yard game winner as time expired to pull it out vs the Lions.  They also lost to Baker and the Browns.

Well, to be fair, we didn't have to play the Lions last season...

charlton heston laughing GIF

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, t96 said:

Lol what have the Vikings done with Cousins to be in a position to trash talk any team in the league. I'd take Baker at $5M over Cousins at his cap hit 100 times out of 100. Darnold was a mistake as was Teddy. Neither was as big or long term of a mistake though as Cousins in MN. They are stuck in purgatory with him.

I am guessing when you say "purgatory" you are talking about the concept of having a QB that is just good enough that it prevents the team from moving on.  He's not winning the division or making deep playoff runs...but he wins enough to take them out of range for the top QBs in the draft.  They could go into free agency, but noone who is available is guaranteed to be an upgrade.  The only other avenue is the trade market.  But teams don't want to take on Cousins salary and it would need to be shed in order to bring another high dollar guy in.

Having a QB like Cousins is one of the weirdest places to be as an NFL team.  It kind of reminds me of owning an out of warranty German luxury car while being severely upside down on the loan.  You want to dump it because of all of the issues and maintenance costs, but at the same time its super hard to unload it in a deal that makes sense because of the negative equity.  Its also a good car...when it runs.  So getting something that isn't a clear downgrade is a challenge.  Next thing you know you are contemplating whether you should pay $20,000 for a $5,000 Nissan Sentra and eat the negative equity that way...pay $70,000 for a $55,000 Lexus...or just ride it out until the wheels and your checkbook fall off.  Saying that for a friend...

Jesse Pinkman Reaction GIF by Breaking Bad

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...