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So what's up with the batted balls?

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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10 minutes ago, Cam Lawter said:

I've always heard batted passes are on the offensive line. Cam had numerous passes batted down in the Miami Game and no one here can call him a midget. It's easy to blame Baker like we did with Brady, Bridgewater, and even Darnold but the coaching staff doesn't even know how to play to our personnel's strengths. The coaching staff does no favors to our offense.  

Somewhat. Jimmy Clausen had this "flatline" trajectory to a lot of his throws that made them easier to bat down (or intercept).

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12 minutes ago, Cam Lawter said:

I've always heard batted passes are on the offensive line. Cam had numerous passes batted down in the Miami Game and no one here can call him a midget. It's easy to blame Baker like we did with Brady, Bridgewater, and even Darnold but the coaching staff doesn't even know how to play to our personnel's strengths. The coaching staff does no favors to our offense.  

With the defense we have now, how great would it be to have Bridgewater and Joe Brady back. 

I agree 100%. Well stated.

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9 minutes ago, Mage said:

It is a Baker Mayfield problem.  It happened a lot in Cleveland too.

 

3 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

he had like a dozen in a single season in CLE. he's got that four games in here.

Baker's doing a lot of not good  things here that he didn't do in cleveland and we're performing worse than with just about any other QB in at least a decade. 

i'm beginning to think this just wasn't a good match.

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4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

he had like a dozen in a single season in CLE. he's got that four games in here.

...with the first five coming in a game against his former coach.

Stefanski knew the problem in Cleveland and schemed to minimize it. When Mayfield came here, Stefanski knew exactly how to exploit it.

Unfortunately, I think that first game showed other coaches how to do it too.

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Our coaching staff can't work to accentuate Mayfield's strengths. How in the hell are they supposed to be able to understand how to minimize his weaknesses?

We so desperately need professional coaching. It's bad all across the board. It's so bad we, as a fanbase, were happy to see the return of Wilks... who was a bad coach and a terrible HC.

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12 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Baker is short and he has a very long windup before he throws. The ability to anticipate a throw coming with the benefit of a lower trajectory leads to the tips.

Compare his release time to tape of Corral or damn near any starter in the NFL. It's painful.

This seems to be the most logical reason for the number of batted passes. Arizona obviously saw something from the Cleveland game and looked to take advantage of it. Baker’s timing is pretty consistent when he makes a decision to commit to the throw. Arizona was trying to block the passes all game but didn’t get the timing figured out until the second half. 

 

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18 hours ago, Cam's New Arm said:

Is his windup any longer than others? They just seem to have a key on when he's drawing back and those DL are reaching up 8-10 feet in the air. I just don't know. It can't just be height. He's the same as Brees. 

One thing to consider, is his poker face the problem?  In other words, is the other team able to tell by looking at Mayfield’s reactions?  I am not sure I am explaining my suspicions, sometimes the other team picks up information by looking at QB body movements, etc.

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2 minutes ago, Green-Ghost said:

One thing to consider, is his poker face the problem?  In other words, is the other team able to tell by looking at Mayfield’s reactions?  I am not sure I am explaining my suspicions, sometimes the other team picks up information by looking at QB body movements, etc.

or sometimes the qb just fuging sucks

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