There's a lot of people saying picking number one doesn't mean much...

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

15 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

There isn't a Newton in this year's draft.

Maybe we get lucky and hope for the rare year the top pick at QB turns out to be the best qb.  

this is revisionist history, there were A LOT of questions about Cam coming out

[tecc86]

Its a fuging moot point because players are playing for contracts, coaches are coaching for opportunities elsewhere.

Its always the dumb fans that say "just tank bro its so easy, just dont play your good players"

You end up where you end up in the draft, point blank, period.

Edited October 23, 2022 by tecc86

[WeDoNotTank]

The NFL needs to implement a top five draft lottery to get rid of the tanking.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

this is revisionist history, there were A LOT of questions about Cam coming out

Yep, Cam wasn’t Peppers.  Lot of doubt.   And frankly none of the people that do the rankings had him #1 until it basically became common knowledge we were going to take a shot on him.  Then they slotted him #1 overall. 

[trucpfan]

It’s impossible to tell professionals to goto work and loose.

Edited October 23, 2022 by trucpfan

[Mr. Scot]

Gotta say, if you watched that locker room video and you believe Steve Wilks or any of his players are entertaining thoughts of tanking, you should probably watch again.

Edited October 23, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[raleigh-panther]

21 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I find it funny the past 2 years people here on the huddle were saying how deep this QB class was, now all of a sudden only 2 of them are good.

Yep. I said the same thing the other day

‘next year’s class is always better than this year’s’ per some on here…been that way since 2008. Only the posters names change in time 

[top dawg]

30 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

i agree. people who say the number 1 pick doesnt matter are not very knowledgeable of the game. having your pick of the litter could be the difference between like u said cam or blaine.. or payton manning and ryan leaf... Get your guy first and not pick off the leftovers.

People who think (and are staunch proponents of) tanking aren't very knowledgeable about the game. That's the only reason why the question of the number one pick comes up at this time in the season anyway. Just the thought of intentionally trying to lose goes against everything that is football. If you're going to lose, youre going to do it because your team isn:t good. Players play to win, period!

Edited October 23, 2022 by top dawg

[Wundrbread33]

37 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

i agree. people who say the number 1 pick doesnt matter are not very knowledgeable of the game. having your pick of the litter could be the difference between like u said cam or blaine.. or payton manning and ryan leaf... Get your guy first and not pick off the leftovers.

So people who disagree just aren’t knowledgeable. Sweet. 
 

The Browns got their guy a few years back. Now he’s on our team, while two MVP caliber QB’s went after him. 
 

It’s just not that simple, and tanking in the NFL isn’t the same as the NBA, where #1 truly matters. 

[Wundrbread33]

17 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Yep. I said the same thing the other day

‘next year’s class is always better than this year’s’ per some on here…been that way since 2008. Only the posters names change in time 

Remember “Tank for Howell”? 
 

Happens every year to a degree. 

[Wundrbread33]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yep, Cam wasn’t Peppers.  Lot of doubt.   And frankly none of the people that do the rankings had him #1 until it basically became common knowledge we were going to take a shot on him.  Then they slotted him #1 overall. 

I mean even Peppers was “lazy, took plays off, and loved basketball more than football.”

 

Cam, from a talent standpoint, was undeniable. “Can he make reads” was the question on the field. 
 

And the rest was “he’s a selfish thug stealing laptops.”

 

So I get the point, but he had number 1 potential and ability. A lot of criticism was just talk, and even outright hit pieces.

 

I don’t see that QB in this draft, where the top 2 have huge concerns regarding exceptional supporting talent, and physical limitation. 

[Mol3m4n]

53 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

There isn't a Newton in this year's draft.

Maybe we get lucky and hope for the rare year the top pick at QB turns out to be the best qb.  

Serious question as I don't care for college football: I've heard about this quarterback draft for a couple of years. What happened?

[mc52beast]

44 minutes ago, jackson113 said:

The defense took us to the SB in 2015 just as much as Cam. There is no vacuum in the NFL...

I remember the 2015 D giving up gigantic leads.

[Davidson Deac II]

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you don't build a good team around that quarterback...

 

...it doesn't.

Got to have the talent around them, the right coach, and the right qb.