Rams Offering Two (Future) Firsts for Burns

[Shocker]

2 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

I’d do it cause Rams will be trash after this year.  Those 1st will be top 10 picks.

This is really the only reason I would listen…the 2024 draft looks like it will have some very good QB prospects and Burns contract demands will be top DE money

Edited November 1, 2022 by Shocker

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Dude they had Mike freaking Mayock running the draft what do you expect.

It was ran by Gruden. He had the same contract as Rhule. Full control. Mayock was head of scouting for him.

[emcannon]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No.

One or both of their second rounders for this year and next year or this year's third plus one of their two second rounders and then we start talking.

If that sounds excessive, take a moment and look back at Les Snead's philosophy toward draft picks.

(it starts with an F)

[HPPantherzfan]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Burns is on his way to have almost the same amount of sacks that Mack had his first 4 years in the NFL before he was traded... they arent that far amount stat wise as players.

Maybe I'm not counting right but what I see is Mack with 40.5 sacks in his first 4 years and BB at 16.5

[Donald LaFell]

I’m fine either way honestly. I’d rather trade him because I don’t think he’s well rounded enough for big DE money. 

[MasterAwesome]

The thing about Burns is, he's obviously a good player and he has had good production but can we honestly say that he has improved in any way since his rookie season?  We've been saying for years now "oh just wait til he takes that next step" but it's his 4th season and he seems like the exact same player to me.  Which is a very good one, but I'd be much more reluctant to trade him away if I felt confident that he has yet to reach his ceiling, which to be honest I'm not.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean you take that deal.  You say goodbye to Burns. 

is Burns talented? Yes.  But to date he has been an incomplete DE.  A pass rush specialist that has never hit double digit sacks. 

Especially when your win horizon is down the road and have to draft a QB to build up. 

What are your odds of replacing Burns? There's a reason a better team is offering those picks. And there's a reason why the Rams have a recent SB victory while we've been wallowing around in the muck of the dredges of the NFL.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Burns is top 5 in the nfl against the run this year ... he is ascending. The guy is 24 and we are talking about him as if this is the end of growth. You are pulling the plug on what every tema wants.... a young player who is turning into an elite player on the field.

I think the key point is that he is due for a massive deal. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I could potentially see McAdoo staying around if Steve Wilks got the head coaching job, but that's not absolutely certain.

In just about any other scenario, unless we hired somebody that had worked extensively with him before, it's hard to picture.

(and I can't think of a head coaching candidate who fits that description)

I wish we could see Wilks with a better quarterback situation but I think that barring a miracle we're changing gears altogether. But part of me is torn as I have wanted an offensive minded coach but seeing guys like Hackett and McDaniels stumble with two of the leagues most struggling offenses gives me pause. I'm still eager to see what Steve can do with this group the rest of the way.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

The Eagles signed Reddick for $10M less per year, why would they ever give up two firsts when they have their cheaper Brian Burns. The Eagles should be our example of having your cake with extra firsts and eating it too with FAs that replace the need. It’s not easy to get a Myles Garrett in FA, but there are pass rushers available that don’t fit the they also stop the run mold. Burns isn’t Garrett.

I've seen no indication that they would outside of speculation.

If they did of course, I'd certainly take it.

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Maybe I'm not counting right but what I see is Mack with 40.5 sacks in his first 4 years and BB at 16.5

here you go. 

[WUnderhill]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sort of...

Jon Gruden had pretty much the same deal as Matt Rhule. He was in charge of everything.

I've seen a few people speculate that he only brought Mayock aboard as a fall guy in case he needed one.

Either way, the Raiders were just incompetent. The value of picks doesn’t change because an incompetent FO drafted poorly in the past.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What are your odds of replacing Burns?

His actual production or what fans hope he can do?

[TheCasillas]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

I think the key point is that he is due for a massive deal. 

Paying for your best players is part of the NFL.. you dont want to be a farm team for the league. If you score on a player in the draft .... you keep them.