Jaycee Horn weighs in on the turf debate

[PantherFanInPhilly]

He just retweeted this from Cooper Kupp.  Hope Tepper is paying attention.  Players don’t want that ish. 
 

 

[kungfoodude]

The NFL has always prioritized money over player safety. 

[BerryLoMein]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The NFL has always prioritized money over player safety. 

Which is odd since the players are the reason for the money.

Edited November 12, 2022 by BerryLoMein

[TheCasillas]

The players will win this debate. the question is how soon will they change the fields?

[Brooklyn 3.0]

https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/home/2019/1/7/turf-and-injuries-the-data-hurts

[frankw]

Get it done Tepper.

[Mol3m4n]

14 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/home/2019/1/7/turf-and-injuries-the-data-hurts

Americansocceranalysis.com

 

Yikes.

[panthers55]

16 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/home/2019/1/7/turf-and-injuries-the-data-hurts

When we played Chelsea last summer in soccer, Tepper had to bring in a natural grass field for the game and then he dismantled it and went back to turf the week after. Chelsea wouldn't play on a turf field.

Edited November 12, 2022 by panthers55

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

When we played Chelsea last summer in soccer, Tepper had to bring in a turf field for the game and then dismantle it and go back to turf the week after.

I'm aware. Turf is not some evil thing the big bad rich white man uses just to make a profit. You dorks need to get off that.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'm aware. Turf is not some evil thing the big bad rich white man uses just to make a profit. You dorks need to get off that.

Ever heard of a player begging to play on turf vs. grass? We sure have seen a lot of the opposite.

 

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'm aware. Turf is not some evil thing the big bad rich white man uses just to make a profit. You dorks need to get off that.

Turf is  easier to maintain and cheaper over time so owners keep laying it down. There is no debate over which is better for the players. It is about saving money over player safety. And who made you chief groundskeeper.

Edited November 12, 2022 by panthers55

[lightsout]

A nice, well kept grass field is a thing of beauty and no amount of state of the art turf will ever replace it.

[1of10Charnatives]

29 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Turf is  easier to maintain and cheaper over time so owners keep laying it down. There is no debate over which is better for the players. It is about saving money over player safety. And who made you chief groundskeeper.

Is it?

Click on Brooklyn's link and actually read the article. It would seem to suggest there's a lot of hard science that says there's little to no difference and actual injury rates are slightly worse on grass.  Yes turf is cheaper to maintain, but player dislike of it may boil down to not liking turf burns (which sucks but aren't actual injuries) and a misperception it's less safe.

Not actual hard evidence to back up that claim.

I'll admit, the article surprised me, but if we're going to be intellectually honest, we have to consider it's merits.

[Tbe]

It seems studies on this are pretty mixed. Who knows.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21985213/

This study analyzed 11 other studies.

From the abstract. Not reading the full thing right now.

“Changing between surfaces may be a precursor for injury in soccer. In conclusion, studies have provided strong evidence for comparable rates of injury between new generation artificial turfs and natural turfs. An exception is the likely increased risk of ankle injury on third and fourth generation artificial turfs.”