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Ben Johnson has me convinced.

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29 minutes ago, Mage said:

Hire Ben Johnson, trade for Lamar Jackson = profit 

Seeing how Wilson and Watson looked for their new teams after being the centerpieces of huge trades and owners of shiny new massive contracts, I think I'm all the way out on trading for Lamar. If a team is willing to part with a franchise QB it has to be seen as a massive red flag. Granted, Watson's red flags were whipping in the wind for all to see.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seeing how Wilson and Watson looked for their new teams after being the centerpieces of huge trades and owners of shiny new massive contracts, I think I'm all the way out on trading for Lamar. If a team is willing to part with a franchise QB it has to be seen as a massive red flag. Granted, Watson's red flags were whipping in the wind for all to see.

Yep and two straight years with injuries and his play style I would stay far away

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WOW!!

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2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

McDermott 

Odonnell

Mcdaniels 

Shannahan

Sirianni

Taylor

Staley

Daboll

 

these are all HCs who are in the playoffs this year and are first time head coaches for their respective franchise. It’s possible I missed someone else as well.

 

mcVay also another head coach with no prior head coach experience. It’s just not a rubric for success anymore.

Most ppl on this list had multiple years as a OC or DC and a proven track record atleast being the number 2 guy..

Ben Johnson has 1 year and you ppl give him a guru tag …

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One has to worry what happens to Ben Johnson when he stands on his own. He was surrounded with offensive minds, and Campbell factored into the play calling with the help of Brunell and Staley. The Lions play calling was done by committee (Campbell, Johnson, Brunell, and Staley) after Lynn was stripped of his play calling duties in 2021 and fired at the end of the season. If I had to go with one of those offensive minds, I choose Brunell and Staley over Johnson. Brunell if you want to develop a QB.

When Johnson leaves, I expect him to promote Engstrand to OC as his nuts and bolts communicator. It will still be play calling by committee. Engstrand will look just like Johnson after 1 season, and you will be talking about hiring him too. As long as Campbell can lean on Staley and Brunell for the run and pass game, Campbell's offense will continue to look the same as it did this season. 

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9 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

McDermott 

Odonnell

Mcdaniels 

Shannahan

Sirianni

Taylor

Staley

Daboll

 

these are all HCs who are in the playoffs this year and are first time head coaches for their respective franchise. It’s possible I missed someone else as well.

 

mcVay also another head coach with no prior head coach experience. It’s just not a rubric for success anymore.

Yea but pretty sure they were a coordinator for more than one year. 

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4 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Yea but pretty sure they were a coordinator for more than one year. 

4 of those names were never a coordinator for more than one year.  One of them was never a coordinator at the NFL level. 

I am not trying to correct you, but just sharing relevant information based on your comment.

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3 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Are you assuming Jackson is tagged? I believe he's scheduled to be a FA.

There is no way the Ravens, or any team, would let their franchise QB walk in FA.  They will 100% tag him.

Cousins is the only sub-30 QB I can think of recently that has hit FA that was a franchise guy, but 1) Cousins wasn't seen as some bonafide top 10 QB like Jackson is and 2) Washington tagged him like 2 or 3 years in a row.  I guess Brady hit FA but only because he negotiated a deal where they couldn't tag him.

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