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Tepper clearly wants to change the Panthers identity

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16 minutes ago, Varking said:

Rhule was never an offensive guru of any sort. He had like 7 years of college coaching experience and he was top 50% defense like all but one year. He also had a top 25 defense like 3 or 4 times in those 7 years. 

He had a top 50 college offense once…

Look at his tenure here. Never a top half of the league offense ( closest was when we fired Joe Brady and then got worse lol ) but we’ve had top half of the nfl defense a couple of his years here. 

Makes sense...

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Sorry don’t believe it. This is just a toy for Tepper. If he truly cared he’d hire consultants. He be more self aware. He isn’t qualified. And honestly he doesn’t care. If we do well he wants to be the reason and wants the credit. Could take ten years, could be never - that fact isn’t important to him and that’s the problem.

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4 minutes ago, Varking said:

For folks that wanted Wilks to stay:

This is the worst our division has been in a long time and we still couldn’t win it. He had the opportunity to by beating Tampa and he said… who is the best offensive pass catcher on the Bucs? Let’s single cover him over and over. And we lost. We got outcoached. 
 

Then, look at who we beat:

Tampa when they were 3-3.

Atlanta when they were 4-5.

Denver when they were 3-7.

Lions when they were 7-7.

New Orleans when they were 7-9. 
 

Cmon.

The comparison is where we were to where we ended up which is clearly an improvement. Most new coaches do better their second year.  Why do people keep acting like this is Wilkes ceiling instead of his floor? Now he would get to pick his players and his staff. That should make things better not worse. You make it sound reasonable that with all the issues and struggles he inherited that he would have a winning record and beat all the good teams.

Get real.

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1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

The comparison is where we were to where we ended up which is clearly an improvement. Most new coaches do better their second year.  Why do people keep acting like this is Wilkes ceiling instead of his floor? Now he would get to pick his players and his staff. That should make things better not worse. You make it sound reasonable that with all the issues and struggles he inherited that he would have a winning record and beat all the good teams.

Get real.

Doing better then rhule isn’t the benchmark for getting the job

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Doing better then rhule isn’t the benchmark for getting the job

No but a real mark of a good coach and leader is when you get the exact same roster or in his case a depleted roster and make them perform at a substsntially higher level and that Wilkes did.

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32 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Because the 3-13 was years ago and the 6-6 shows where he is today. Better indication of his current ability.  And I guess not having a secondary impacted why our defense got worse.  Truth is you have to nitpick to find fault when he did a great job under the circumstances.

 

Well, to be fair. Nitpicking is kinda what he Huddle does. Someone posts a thought, and the rest of the Huddle nitpick it til it bleeds. Rinse and repeat.

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16 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

No but a real mark of a good coach and leader is when you get the exact same roster or in his case a depleted roster and make them perform at a substsntially higher level and that Wilkes did.

People don’t seem to understand how limited this roster is offensively. Our QB room is bottom 2 in the league with Houston, we have absolutely zero receiving threats at tight end and we have a #1 receiver who’s really #2 guy at best. Wilks nor any other coach can make that offense look explosive. He did a great job with what he had.

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14 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

People don’t seem to understand how limited this roster is offensively. Our QB room is bottom 2 in the league with Houston, we have absolutely zero receiving threats at tight end and we have a #1 receiver who’s really #2 guy at best. Wilks nor any other coach can make that offense look explosive. He did a great job with what he had.

Daboll and Kafka had Daniel Jones put up 3,200 yards, 15 TDs, and a 92.5 QB rating/60.7 QBR with Darius Slayton, Richie James, Isaiah Hodgins, and Daniel Bellinger as their top receiving options.

 

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2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

If we pick someone with no head coach experience expect to be mediocre again. The winning percentage for new first time head coaches is around  42% their first year.

This is how I feel as well.  Wilks is the right man for this point and time. Tepper will screw it up, he’s the new Snyder. 

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6 minutes ago, ickmule said:

This is how I feel as well.  Wilks is the right man for this point and time. Tepper will screw it up, he’s the new Snyder. 

You wanted Ron to go but you are fully in favor of bringing back a coach who will have to learn the concept of going for it on 4th down and not punting over and over like Rivera did early on? You're entitled to your opinion but this place really is bizarro sometimes.

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Ben Johnson to me is the NFL version of Joe Brady...let that sink in.

I mean Wilks defense was actually better than Ben Johnson offense...let that sink in.

I'm all for a new approach at offense don't get me wrong but it starts with your QB first...

Example...U can be a great coach and your QB sucks..Payton without Brees...u lose..or have a great QB and your coaching sucks but u win...ala Brady/bowles....

 

 

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