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CJ Stroud's tape is a Pleaseant Surprise

Ricky Spanish

By Ricky Spanish,
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8 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Arm strength is overrated. Tom Brady is the GOAT QB and he really didn't have elite arm power.

 

How many elite QBs didn't have at least very good arms though? Arm strength is THE factor that gets more QB prospects overdrafted than any other individual factor but there's a reason for that.

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17 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I think CJ is the best QB prospect in this draft, but I think his biggest potential weakness is his personality.  He seems very reserved and almost aloof on the field.  Not the stereotypical vocal leader type.

He describes it here. I thought the same at first but watching more interviews and social media bts clips he has a presence/charisma that's confident and genuine. I'll take that over a "fiery" Russ or Baker etc. 

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42 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

This was cool but McCowns breakdown was my favorite. Hard to compete with a guy that's been breaking down film in actual NFL QB rooms for 20 years. I wish he'd gotten to Richardson and Hooker before he took the QB coach job 

It's of no benefit to us to have McCown pubically expressing his views on the upcoming draft class. I get it's fun and insightful but his QB views just became the Panthers intellectual property. 

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9 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

 

TL;DW

Pros:

He showed improvement as the season went on and made a lot of anticipation throws that he missed early in the year. Smart and decisive and can make multiple reads (Compares him to Fields who made those kinds of reads 5 times all year at OSU, whereas Stroud did them 5 times a game. Also mentions Stroud's time to throw was significantly lower than Fields' at 2.80 compared to 3.14). Throws a pretty and accurate ball, very Russell Wilson-esque the way it drops in on a dime.

Cons:

Lacks elite Pocket presence and does not manipulate the pocket well even though he senses pressure well (Compares him to Dak Prescott and Derek Carr in that regard). This leads to him scrambling sometimes unnecessarily and making erratic throws without structure. Decision making ability takes a massive hit when he needs to ad-lib.

Conclusion:

Calls him a certified passer by Bruce Arian's definition of a QB and Jared Goff who can run, which is a high floor guy that 20+ Franchises would gladly take under a rookie deal. Not a knock on him as an evaluation at all. Says he ended up being much more impressed than he originally was after looking at the tape.

Worth a top 5 pick.

If he falls to 9...

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7 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

His arm strength is very good, not elite. He can make every throw, but he can’t laser 35+ yards on a rope like Cam, Allen, Roethlesburger.  He’s got more than enough for the deep ball though. 

It’s not any weaker than Burrows.

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Not handling pressure well nor being able to deliver off platform throws when having to improvise are fairly damning traits for an NFL QB prospect.

If Stroud is the guy, then the hope is that the Georgia game is the type of player he is rather than can be.

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