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We're trolling right? Sources say Panthers open for business in trading down from #1


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3 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I would only trade down to 2. Young is a can't miss QB who has size issues but otherwise is a potential hall of famer if he stays healthy, and Stroud isn't as good but still very very good. There's a big drop off after 2.

Thats it, you can only trade down to 2.......may be 3 since zona *should* by all counts draft a defender.

 

Texans could be willing to toss a 4th in order to pick young, only if the panthers make them believe the colts/raiders/_____ want their player/QB.

I mean can the draft day movie pull a simpsons here, tune it.....

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7 minutes ago, DeeJay said:

Id swap our first for the 2nd they get who they want we get who we want a few more picks....

This is going to sound weird, but........

I would have no problem offering that up, but if the Texans actually wanted to do it, then there is no way in hell we should.

The Texans swapping with the Bears made sense as it would have been done so someone else couldn't swoop in and take the player they prefer.  If they think we're taking the player they want, they'd want to swap picks with us still, but if they don't think we're taking the guy they want, then they'd never give up assets to then pay more money for the player they could get at #2.

Basically in short, if the Texans want to do it, it's because they want to draft the same player we want.  No way we gave up all those draft assets and DJ to take our second choice.

And no, we can't really threaten them with, "well then we'll trade the pick to the Colts" because then we'll have given up WAY too much to move to #4 and the crapshoot of whichever QB is left.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

This is going to sound weird, but........

I would have no problem offering that up, but if the Texans actually wanted to do it, then there is no way in hell we should.

The Texans swapping with the Bears made sense as it would have been done so someone else couldn't swoop in and take the player they prefer.  If they think we're taking the player they want, they'd want to swap picks with us still, but if they don't think we're taking the guy they want, then they'd never give up assets to then pay more money for the player they could get at #2.

Basically in short, if the Texans want to do it, it's because they want to draft the same player we want.  No way we gave up all those draft assets and DJ to take our second choice.

The Texans would have to tell Carolina who they’re taking if they swap. No way Carolina would ever do it blind. 

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23 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I thought about this when we made the trade, that if we were happy with any of the top four that we could effectively move up from 9, deal from there and get our QB for *nothing*.

Interesting to see if anything materializes in this regard.

Exactly. It puts them fully in the driver's seat. Not a bad place to be.

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1 minute ago, JawnyBlaze said:

The Texans would have to tell Carolina who they’re taking if they swap. No way Carolina would ever do it blind. 

That would be even dumber

Just think about it... why would the Texans tell us which player they want to take, then do the trade with us, and then still draft that player.

Just logically, if we're willing to do that trade after they tell us who they want to take, then that means it's not the player we want and there is no reason for them to then give us assets to move up one spot and have to pay more on that contract at the same time.

The only way it would work would be if we draft who they want and then trade that player to them for the 2nd pick, and that's not happening either.

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

That would be even dumber

Just think about it... why would the Texans tell us which player they want to take, then do the trade with us, and then still draft that player.

Just logically, if we're willing to do that trade after they tell us who they want to take, then that means it's not the player we want and there is no reason for them to then give us assets to move up one spot and have to pay more on that contract at the same time.

That’s how it works. When a team trades down, the other team tells them who they’re going to take. The first team doesn’t trade down if the partner is targeting their player.  The second team still drafts that player because if they don’t, they’re branded as liars and other GMs won’t trade with them in the future if they can’t trust who they’re doing business with. That’s just how it all works. 

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