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Adam Schefter: Bryce Young is believed to be favorite for #1 for the Panthers right now

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27 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

It’s going to take an absolute catastrophic event to change what I am about to share with you all.

It’s Stroud. We are enamored of him. 

If that's the ultimate choice, I'll be fine with it.

I just also won't throw a massive tantrum if it turns out it isn't.

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3 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

WAIT!   I know I don't keep up with College football and all but there is ANOTHER Mac Jones?

The Patriots already have one.     Another one is going to be in the NFL?  lol

Clearly making a comparison to the situation here. Bryce Young would be Mac Jones in this scenario and, I'm guessing, Anthony Richardson is Trey Lance. The only issue with Schefter's theory is that we don't have Jimmy Gorropolo, we have Andy Dalton. Though Andy Dalton was very, very successful in Cincinnati which makes me wonder how his career fell off of a cliff. 

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4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I could see Stroud taking hits due too his lack of mobility vs Young.  I think Stroud (at least in college) tends to get the ball out quick.  He is more prone to throw it away vs running around extending it trying to make a play.  Young has been doing more or as much with less talent at WR than Stroud, that alone may help him have more success early that Stroud will.  They are both two great options so either way I'm good.  

I could see Young taking more hits because he thinks he can escape, whereas Stroud will throw the ball away. I also wouldn't underestimate Stroud's mobility. He shows he can do it, he just didn't have a need for it. Young couldn't see over the line so he would have to move more to find lanes which people are wowed by but it isn't really indicative of anything other than the fact that he's short. 

So give me Stroud who can see over and around the line without having to scramble versus Young who HAS to scramble to even see anything. 

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5 minutes ago, Ivory Panther said:

Remember, processing is what's special with Bryce compared to anyone else in this draft.

But how can you quantifiably say that Young is superior? It's all subjective. 

I'm not knocking Young. I think their approach to the game is just different, but both have the potential to be elite. And I haven't seen anything in Stroud's performance to lead me to believe that even with tougher competition and with less talent around him that he couldn't do just as well, in fact that is exactly what happened against GA.

I'm leaning towards Stroud, but I would be thrilled with either one and think that with either one we'd rule the NFCS right out of the gate.

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46 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

It’s going to take an absolute catastrophic event to change what I am about to share with you all.

 

It’s Stroud. We are enamored of him. 

Is this from a source or your opinion?  Either way it sounds like good news to me!

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6 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Young couldn't see over the line so he would have to move more to find lanes which people are wowed by but it isn't really indicative of anything other than the fact that he's short. 

So you are telling me 5'10 can't see over 6'5 line but 6'3 can see over 6'5? Technically, neither of them can.

It's funny how people think that QBs can see over the line. 

I'm 6'3 and I can assure you that I can't see over ppl who are 6'3 let alone taller. 

Andy Reid once said & I'm paraphrasing... "QBs don't look over building to throw the ball, they look between the buildings to throw the ball".

The "can't see over the line" thing is very overrated!

Bryce scrambles when he has to, due to pressure & not because he can't see over the line.

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We know that Young’s processing is awesome, but I also haven’t heard anything negative about Stroud’s processing. Have we seen any analyst say Stroud is not as good of a processor? Do we have any proof that he is not on the same level? Just because he isn’t running around like Young? That’s more a playing style thing in my mind. And to clarify, I’m totally open to this being the case, but I’m curious if anyone can back this up outside of just a random opinion?

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3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

But how can you quantifiably say that Young is superior? It's all subjective. 

I did by showing you at this stage, one is calling plays & adjust protection at the line of scrimmage while the other gets plays called in. 

Can CJ do that, I don't know. But what I do know is that he is not currently doing that...

as far as the GA game it was impressive, but it was 1 game. Can that be the new CJ? Sure. But we don't know. 

What we do know is that Bryce has add performances like the that over & over & over again.

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5 minutes ago, Ivory Panther said:

So you are telling me 5'10 can't see over 6'5 line but 6'3 can see over 6'5? Technically, neither of them can.

It's funny how people think that QBs can see over the line. 

I'm 6'3 and I can assure you that I can't see over ppl who are 6'3 let alone taller. 

Andy Reid once said & I'm paraphrasing... "QBs don't look over building to throw the ball, they look between the buildings to throw the ball".

The "can't see over the line" thing is very overrated!

Bryce scrambles when he has to, due to pressure & not because he can't see over the line.

Law Of Averages. If our team knocked 5" and 30lbs off the NFL average we would get clobbered. Do that at any position and then multiple positions you see what a snowball that can become.

There are averages in every facet of life for a reason, ignore them to your eventual detriment.

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