Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Reported asking price from Raiders for #1


Peon Awesome
 Share

Recommended Posts

On 3/10/2023 at 4:53 PM, *FreeFua* said:

Yeah…

Some of us wanted to take that 1st and change for DJ at the deadline. I feel like we basically got that with including him in this trade 

We swap 1’s this year. Giving up SF 2nd rounder this year. Then we’re out our 1st next year and our 2nd the following year 

Including DJ allowed us to save our 2025 1st rounder and change 

I really think we did quite well considering we WERE picking 9th

I said that as soon as the trade happened 

Including DJ allowed for us to send SF’s 2nd rounder instead of ours which is a pretty big deal

Then obviously we got to keep our 1st rounder in 2025

If we end up trading a 3rd or 4th for Nuk to replace DJ then we really did do well

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Without a consistently good QB what does a decent to good WR mean in the grand scheme of things? 

Saw a lot of other NFL fans and talking heads saying we lost the trade badly mostly bemoaning the loss of DJ

Steve Smith did a pretty good en depth analysis of DJs stats over the years and basically he isn't anywhere near as dominant as people make him out to be . 

Near the beginning of the video when he's talking about DJ with the panthers. You'd be suprised how middling/average ish  he ranks in a lot of categories. 

Nobody arguing that DJ isnt GOOD but my problem is all these people making it seem like we gave up a 25 year old Jerry rice.

Start around 14 min mark.

 

https://youtu.be/iWWEyZRP_qc

Edited by Hoenheim
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

https://thecomeback.com/nfl/bears-raiders-draft-asking-price.html

Stumbled on this article that said Chicago wanted the following from the Raiders for the #1 pick:

Pick 7

Pick 38

2 Future 1sts (Presumably 2024 and 2025)

Future 2nd

 

Let's compare to what we gave:

Pick 9, Pick 61, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, DJ Moore

 

Let's assume they were OK with a 2025 2nd from Las Vegas to simplify things.

That means DJ Moore was valued as:

2025 1st

Value needed to get from pick 61 to 38 (at least an extra 2nd)

Value between pick 9 and 7 (probably a 3rd and 4th?)

 

That would put DJ's perceived value by Chicago as roughly a future 1st, 2nd, 3rd AND 4th.

Even if you assume Chicago would have to come down a bit since that was too much for the Raiders and that some of this was posturing, even anything close to that is tremendous value for DJ. It sucks to lose him, but in this case I think it justifies the price.

 

for a wr that racked up yards in trash time and disappears when poo gets hard (redzone) averaging 3-4 TDs a season…Feilds won’t be bailed out by DJ in the end zone and you don’t give up those kind of picks for that…hell they could’ve traded less for cmc lol

well has a Fit non believer I will admit was a good deal for us and the only reason it isn’t great is we have nothing left WR wise…like nothing

 But I’ll take good

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The good news is that we are pretty uniquely well established to address all of our needs this season. We have $14m real cap space, and something like $40m in trade deadline cap space. Not sure exactly how that works out. But, we have the room to absorb any bad contracts. With recent rule changes regarding retention, that went into effect this season, we now have a huge advantage in the trade market.  On top of that, while we do have obvious needs, we also have a glut of talent in certain areas that we struggle to find ice time for. We are over-stocked on scrappy talented lil-guys, strong defensively sound 3rd liners and shutdown left shot dmen. Whether it's a package or separate deals, idk. But, one of each from Stank/Blake/Nads, Erob/Carrier/KK/Jank, and Walker/Nystrom; throw in some 1st round picks (and frankly any other prospects they want) and we should be able to come out with a 1b to pair with Bussi and either a 2c with size or a 2c and size.   TL/DR We got the money, you got the stuff?
    • I don’t  think 6’4 was ever considered small or undersized. Baby hands tho, yes that was his thing That’s an interesting idea, like an optical illusion? Sounds like you have personal experience with this! 
    • in the 25' draft the Carolina Panthers had hired Brandt Tillis someone who actually understood how to build a successful team & build through the draft .  this team was yes mismanaged for years prior to Brandt Tillis joining the team in 25' & rarely done anything right in the draft outside occaionaly getting lucky on an UDFA such as Jalen Coker who's dad coincidentally happened to be a huge Carolina Panthers fan, hint hint  ...just saying 
×
×
  • Create New...